On today’s episode of UFC Unfiltered, Jim and Matt are joined by lightweight Drew Dober ahead of his fight on this Saturday’s card …
[Applause] take chances take risks Chase greatness right being perfect is Bing for Drew Dober the toughness being the veteran he is he’s got his opponent HT he’s saying I’m not giving you another chance to land any of this crazy stuff you’ve been throwing at me kid Dre [Applause] Dober welcome to UFC un builer please tell me that’s on video I’ve never been happier I’m made for a podcast that’s dangerous listen to me we’re out of [Music] here welcome to UFC unfiltered uh Matt and I today are going to be it’s very hot in my house right now by the way uh we’re going to be joined today uh definitely by our our friend Drew Dober who I think this will be his sixth appearance possibly San Diego ponzano uh but he’s having an issue he’s in traffic so if we don’t have him today we will uh of course hopefully get him on soon he’s fighting Muslim solakov this Saturday and uh he’s been laid off for quite a while since that Kevin Holland lost so I hope we get a chance to talk to him Matt have we had him on it says we haven’t but I thought we’ve interviewed him before I think we have but I think so too sometimes they’ll put in the prep sheet how many times someone’s been on it I think we’ve had him on before I mean Drew Dober is pretty much a regular he might be yeah Drew Dober comes on a bunch yes with that smile and perfect hair that guy he’s like chiseled like know and he’s so dangerous you think like ah look at the pretty boy that’s all you got whenever he’s on though people always they they say they have a hard time telling he and I apart which I think that’s why I wear the glasses that’s so untrue Jimmy you all looking good you look a little better than yesterday the other day you looked a little pale you something happened you what did you get some training in or you looked a little you looked a little like a little I was on a different um I had a different uh set I was in a hotel so I was using one of those weird virtual backgrounds so I look pale and kind of dead now I’m home 100% it didn’t do you no favors but you look good now thank you yeah if you didn’t look good now I wouldn’t even say nothing I’d be like no why would you tell me that would just humiliate me and hurt my feelings but now you’re tell me I’m very handsome how’s the YouTube show going with your wife are you still doing that we are but you know it’s funny we haven’t done anything in a while because uh she had a death in the family so it would it’s been uh she hasn’t been here a lot um she’s here now but I think by next week we’ll start again but uh we’ve been traveling and she had family stuff so um you know we just we haven’t had time because she hasn’t been here I got you man my family did a little traveling last week I told I think I told you briefly where go well I didn’t go nowhere I stayed home with my youngest my 11year old and oh right yeah my wife and my two oldest daughters they went down to Virginia Beach for the Nationals dance thing there from my middle and that was fun for that I mean I it was Daddy Daycare for a few days yeah oh had all dude we I we had a blast I make I try to make it fun went to my buddy’s Pete’s pool party you’ll see on my Instagram I give him my brown belt right there at the party that’s nice very deserving you know I was going to do it to school a couple weeks ago you know we got a lot of people there you know so had a very he does that every year what a good time we have over there and then you know they have cornhole you played cornhole Jimmy keep it clean the game cornhole I think I have it’s with it’s with the uh sandbags it’s not what you think oh no I haven’t played well actually I can’t hurts I wish I wish they Nam something different because I always like I love cornhole and it just sounds weird but that’s fun and then the next day I you know I became friends with the big security guy at this uh roller ring he’s a big nice nice guy we had my kids’s birthday party there right so uh this was a few a couple months ago Al so we have somebody in the room no oh give me a signal no no no no no no not yet all right I’ll keep talking then we’ll talk about some fights this is the signal but I didn’t give the signal okay okay I just thought maybe my stories might get a little you know no they’re great okay so listen so I’m at the I’m at my kids birthday party and then so this big guy real big guy at the door you know older guy big guy some tattoos it looks like a rough guy so then it’s time to you know when your parties are done we gotta kind of clear him out because then it’s time for the other people coming in yeah coming over I’m still not sure the guy because he doesn’t he’s not really smiling at all so he’s like you know you know clearing everybody out so I go over you know I go hey um he getting kind of Uncle Edwin and you know who knows what would happen then you know it’ll be like a Pacific Rim with a robot versus anyway so I go over there go hey what’s up big igle let me help you get this her let me her these this group for you help you heard them up you know and he leans over and he goes big fan I oh big fan I go you are a big fan you’re large so we started talking nice guy yeah you know then I brought my kid back the next week next you know he’s open up the side do on me a little bit like a I already paid online he’s trying to be nice and yeah my kid wins some stuff on the card he goes over what do you want the B so now this Friday and I I’ll plug if anybody’s in Long Island um there’s a benefit for uh police officers at the DIA Park outlets okay and they can go on my Instagram I’ll post something closer to it and uh so he he’s a former cop and he wants he asked me if I could do something and make an appearance down there so I said sure you know and he was very grateful now I think I got a you know I’m got a free rollering P for life for me and my you want to skate so well I don’t really skate ladies choice and they would always play the slow song I like I know I couples only couples only they don’t do that anymore no of course not but lonely School shooters will be sitting there by themselves no one to skate with it’s listen it’s right near my house this place so like if I killing afternoon or a couple hours with my kids they’re going into circles and I’m hanging out having a slushie hey I’m be honest I’m but when I was there last time I had one of those long braided pretzels I should have done it but I did it sure and I enjoyed it well you treat enough of me in my little life that’s Jimmy what a good time I taught this morning go look on my Instagram I was breaking gual in in guard I was getting over hooks getting angles Uma plates I haven’t uh I haven’t trained in a a week and a this will be my longest period without it because I’ve been gone and I’m only home for today like I’m literally home from I I flew home yesterday and I’m flying out as soon as we’re done so I was home for like I know 24 hours hey we’re getting into some MMA action right now where you flying out to uh we’re going to the West Coast I have to go out there for a funeral oh oh I’m sorry Jimmy Jimmy yeah I just went to my old pizzer Pizzeria boss’s funeral Louie cello oh what a great I used to go away with this guy and uh what a good man I went I used to go skiing with him camping he was a bit older than me he was like a almost like one of my mentors even though he was a little twisted in a good way yes really just Rowdy sense of humor we used to go I was young man I what was I 18 19 the guy’s in his 30s we’d go up to these ski lodges and then it’d be some karaoke he’d be like oh let’s see if we can get some mother daughter action going you know what I mean he’d go up there do ma the knife ah it was funny bro did you get mother daughter action that’s the we we never did we never but he was up there he was he was you know he was an old you know retired coxman now Matt this Saturday we should be promoting as well okay sorry we should promote I keep forgetting this Saturday July the 13th in Denver which is why we do this program the prelim 7 o’clock the main cards 10 o’cl on ESPN ESPN plus uh Rose namun against Tracy Cortez um this is really uh you know Rose had a couple losses and then she came back with a nice win over Amanda heas and uh Tracy Cortez is coming off a string of wins uh 5 and0 in the UFC so this is a great fight great matchup hey man I like it I like it a lot we can go right the picks we can go write the picks I mean we could talk about the fights more and then sure people be like oh my goodness who are they picking and then say who whoever Matt’s picking got to be way more you know reliable of uh than whoever Jimmy’s picking there are times where that would be apparent yeah yeah I’m sorry Jenny I’m hey in the UFC though I was always a good winner sure you know when Frank win when Frank trig would win it shouldn’t be frank win but if Frank trig would win you know what he would do go he would do like a pro wrest and thing you go you know what do you know did you like that oh I listen to me one of my main motivations when I was getting ready to fight fight Frank trig I could not have if he would have beat me I know I would have heard you no and it would have haunted me why the rest of my days because I I don’t I really don’t know I don’t you know what I do know I know he didn’t like it I know he didn’t like it at all but listen let’s talk about now let’s not talk about fights 16 years ago you always gota bring you always gota embarrass me well the Frank Tri one was a big one I know that I’m actually looking crank up right now I’ll watch that right now all right listen let’s talk about let’s talk about some fights not only that but the co-main event Jimmy the co-main event Jimmy uh yes Drew Dober against John Silva and that we’re supposed to have oh no that’s I’m sorry Pon nibio against Muslim salikov is is Drew is the featured about um panan nibio uh has not fought since April of 23 which is about 15 months um and uh Muslim salikov lost to uh Randy Brown in February so he at least had a recent fight um they’re both coming off of um stoppages that puns in nut did you see that fight that that it was a really good fight in the third round Kevin Holland um I mean it was a perfect left hook I think at San Diego was going backwards and he kind of face planted and it was a controversial stoppage but I I thought the stoppage was fair listen it definitely could have been fair but let’s say about you look at these other couple of L’s with uh Michelle Pereira and uh Jeff Neil yeah they they were split decisions Split Decision y you know what I mean and I had a couple of those in my career I get it you’re like well did I really get beaten that’s what you’re thinking in your mind did they keep you up did I really did I really lose that’s what you say and some of them yes you really did but other times you could be like I don’t know so thought I got that one yeah you know he’s always in the fight and he’s you know and you know he was already going on a tear for a while uh I he was on the seven fight win streak um but then he had to sit out for a while he sat out for uh two years I wanna yeah he was on a seven fight win streak up until and uh but listen I’m really I’m interested in a bunch of fights the main event I’m very interested in yes but Drew Dober versus Jean Jean Silva now Jean Silva is looking Unstoppable I know there was um some issue and that’s why he’s fighting at 155 now there was issue with his last fight with Charles uh jordane Jordan a very who’s a very good fighter yeah it reminds me recently of the Kevin gin win uh over um uh Daniel Rodriguez it’s like man you know like are we is it the same playing field now are we may are we are you making weight if you’re not making weight that that’s part of it man that’s really part of it because your body how much weight was the difference with the Gaston fight do you know oh it was a bunch that it was like six pounds it was a few pounds wasn’t it and it’s like the third time he did it man it’s like yo I’m known for like liking food I mean I I knew I was known to blow up I never missed wave like it’s just something that you can’t do you just can’t do it so like him to do it multiple times but um how much was Kelvin over oh i i s that to Jake yeah it was so far off they renegotiated the catch midf fight oh okay I I remember that I just didn’t remember the actual uh P was it six pounds or am I crazy more than that something crazy but the Jean Silva I I’m I’m interested I can’t wait to get Drew on because I mean he’s such a warrior like what what what’s motivating him to welcome this guy to the division cuz Jean Silva so far is looking Unstoppable and of course everybody is stoppable but he’s looking Unstoppable he’s one of those fight nerds and uh you know I just think he’s a badass man I mean he’s just I mean when Drew is an established um lightweight you know what is Drew’s ranking right now um I’ll tell you in a second by the way but Silva’s coming up that was literally June 29th I think was that last fight and even though it didn’t go very long it was still you had had to you still had to weight cut and do all that stuff so there has not been it’s a very very fast turnaround uh for him all right well he’s saying right now that Drew just fell out of the top 15 he was 15 okay unranked looking to get back in the rankings well yeah that’s how that’s how good that division is that Drew Dober is right below the ranking like that’s how devastating that division is I’ll tell you I was impressed with that last fight with herado Morano vers some not the I don’t want to it’s Drew’s moment now we’re talking to him but his last fight with hanato moano M I’m H moano let’s get him back on soon too he’s a fun guy but uh the way he Blended in he’s been blending in his takedowns and his Jiu-Jitsu and he’s been using it beautifully and I’m a fan of Jiu-Jitsu yes you are by the way this is how good that division is Bobby green is 15th Bobby green is ranked 15 so that that’s how solid m m is 10 Holloway is n um then again he’s uh yeah B he’s he’s 15th and Drew knocked out Bobby you know I’m I mean you know not that it can’t go the other way around but I’m just saying it it’s just to show you how good Drew Dober is yes yeah might not be ranked there but Bobby is ranked there he beat Bobby but you know that whole uh do tried he’s tied for porier most knockouts in lightweight history they got nine and uh you wondered how much let me ask you Matt how much guys notice that when you guys are fighting like a a record or most octagon hours or all these like I remember when when uh when Frankie got the most octagon hours they were talking about like is that important most minutes in the Octagon or any of these records or when you’re fighting do you not even think of it well put it this way most octagon hours means obviously he’s got a high fight IQ because the guy’s got a lot of time clocked in so that’s something to take into consideration but if a guy’s got like Craig Paul Craig how many submissions from the back yeah you got to take that into consideration or if uh I fought a guy Eve Edwards one time and uh he was very powerful in the tight clinch so I’m like all right if he’s going to beat me he’s beat me anywhere else but there so you gotta we had to to address that even jumping the pulling guard at one point and going for anashi and a leg because you know there certain areas you can’t be in with certain guys and their fight if they’re fights it’s like coincidence that they’re you know ending fights the same way you you know right what I mean so it’s like all right guy’s got a really powerful left he’s gotta have to beat me with the right hand and right hand and right leg because I’m taking that away from him you know what I mean what I was asking though like and yes is when when there’s like they said he has the most he’s got nine and porier has nine is that something that will play in your head when you’re when you’re the guy looking like will he be thinking I want to get that 10th knockout and pass porier does that matter at all in the fight or do you not even cuz like you know look when a guy’s playing baseball it’s a different sport but he knows when he going for a home run record or he knows when he’s going for uh most hits or whatever the he’s doing I don’t think so man because the thing is this depending on the record like you want them you if you want that knockout you let it happen you don’t go seeking that knockout like does that make sense it kind of happens naturally so you can’t force it is what I’m saying so I don’t know to you answer your question I don’t know Jimmy you’re throwing a curveball at me um hey what sorry let’s talk about the Jimmy let’s do the uh let’s do some picks while we’re waiting man well why not ponzano against Muslim salikov um now it’d be awkward if we pick against Pon zimia then have him on but um I can tell you I go ahead I was gonna say I’m going with I’m going with uhh Santiago so am I and I’m not just gonna pick against you to do it anymore because I’m getting creamed but I do uh I do think ponan nibio is going to win that fight um I’m going to say round stoppage he’s going to start Landing some soup bones on him sorry I think uh I think it’ll go decision I think Pon be by decision I did push-ups today Jimmy I mean it’s very obvious well I have not done them today all right well then don’t flex I’m healing up my leg I’ll Flex for the both of us Drew Dober against John Silva um I’m gonna take Drew in this one because there’s such John Silva looks great excuse me but there’s such a fast turnaround um and again going up uh I think Drew Dober is a problem and I think Drew Dober gets a second round stoppage man how old is Drew Dober now he’s 35 35 eight year age difference but he’s still 35 is not old like you know uh muslima is 40 like that’s that’s when you start to go like wow 39 40 the age is a real consideration but 35 I don’t really all right maybe I’ll pick this one after we talk to Drew okay oh my God am I being an no you’re uh you want to see how he sounds I want to see how he sounds that’s true like I’m gonna regret picking him if he jumps on and he’s like Oh wait is my fight Saturday uh then I’m like you know I should have talked to him before I picked who you taking uh in the main event Matt Rose or Tracy Cortez now you know what I’m looking at this here that fight I feel was closer than I know it’s a unanimous decision but I think her fight with Reas Amanda heas was was pretty close yeah and Tracy Cortez you know I don’t want to pick against Rose well and and Tracy has not fought the level of competition that Ros has fought I mean she fought some good Fighters but I know but like her ground imp to style like when she gets that fight down she’s very rose is very good at arm locks and throwing stuff up from the guard and she has really good Jiu-Jitsu too but I like the way Tracy like postures out of arm locks and comes back down like she’s almost not afraid to be in the fire there you know you know she ain’t gonna get burnt you know I’m sorry Jimmy I should I know I didn’t like I should have left that now you should now it’s cringey um I’m I’m gonna say Tracy Cortez by I am and I will go just the opposite and take Rose uh by decision just the two of us we could make it if we try this is all we need Matt Jimmy you and I oh we got Drew in the waiting room oh I was gonna break out another I was gonna bust out another tune is Drew in the waiting room oh he is in the waiting room let’s get him in here man I like Drew Dober I do too guarantee he’s smiling never in a shitty fight ever he’s never in a boring and and never in a shitty [Music] mood hey Drew a right there what up guys how you doing I’m hoping you were talking about me hey Drew listen he said never in a shitty fight and I said never in a shitty mood you’re you’re pretty much a happy guy Drew over you’re always smiling I I can’t see you walking moping around are you ever like just like I’m feeling all I feel like my my wife will disagree you know she gets the the mopy side but when it comes to punching people in the face then you can’t help to have a smile on your face ites coworkers every day of my life so why is everyone mad I I I got to ask you about this fight with Jean Silva because man let me tell you drew is it it when you get say listen we got a fight for you when you’re a when you’re uh your agent whoever is telling this do they just do you just say whoever I mean this guy that you’re fighting Jean Silva two and0 in the UFC two stoppages looking Unstoppable I know he’s going up in weight you’re gonna be welcome welcome to the I stuttered but to the division uh you know how did this fight happen and what made you just did you just say yes what is this I want to fight like I just I I want to fight July 13th I agreed to fight here in uh you know in Denver and uh you know unfortunately Mike Davis got injured but uh yeah any name I mean UFC I try to make things easier for Sean Shelby so whatever name he wants to throw by me 55 or even 70 it’s just a yes for me because uh fighting is more important to me and uh as you know like this uh this career doesn’t last forever so I’m trying to get as many in before it’s over you also um you’re fighting in Denver where you’re very familiar and you’re very comfortable with that uh altitude you wonder how this is going to affect Silva like he just fought I think was June 29th was the fight even though it didn’t go the distance it was still a fight you still have to weight cut and you still have to whatever um and now you wonder going up in weight and fighting here those things seem to work in your favor uh I’m eager to find out uh I mean I don’t know he might come in and he might be ready for the altitude he might just be one of those psychos that are just able to like work well in high altitude and so I’m I’m just preparing for us to be on equal playing fields and uh I’m eager to find out now are you expecting an early Rush from this kid I mean he’s very aggressive did you watch any tape on him there’s not a ton of footage in the UFC with him but or are your people watching tape on him very aggressive yeah when the name came across I mean I missed the UFC 303 so I had to go back and take a look at it and uh yeah he is wild and he is fun and and the fact that he took this fight you know and you know it’s stacked against him it just kind of shows his mentality and these are the guys I like fighting these are the guys I’m trying to create stories with and memories and you know uh you know like anytime I step in the Octagon I’m trying to make every single fight exciting and this is just an equal dance partner so um what I expect is I’m working all Camp to to dismiss expectations I need to figure out once I’m in there he might come out hot he might be more reserved he might try to Grapple me like I don’t know cuz uh in these these film watching he hasn’t fought me and he’s coming in with a plan of his own and I’m eager to find out what that is it it is one of those things too like with the altitude you don’t know how a person’s going to try to manage it like do they try to come in like Matt said be really aggressive fast because they’re worried about what the second and third are going to look like or do they come in and try to be very very even and and and save stuff for this second and third so I guess you really don’t know until you’re in front of the guy yeah I mean I don’t think anyone knows until you’re here you know what they’re going to do so I think I think John Sila is gonna figure out what he wants to do in the octagon and then I have to counter or react accordingly it is real go J I was just gonna say are you changing anything differently in your training camps where I was thought I tried training the same at 34 like I as I did when I was in my 20s and I blew my back out I was I went a little nutty and then I realized I had to try to taper my training and tailor it to me just not being the same athlete as my 20s dude you don’t you look like you’re in your 20s obviously are you changing anything in Camp as far as with your with your training camps or is it just or I mean it could be a genetic thing uh I feel better at 35 than I did in my 20s um however we have this understanding how much is enough I think way back when we were on this like this grind mindset grind every day and this and that where it’s like man we’re only fighting for 15 minutes I mean hopefully 25 minutes one day um but I mean so that’s it so it’s like I know what is enough so I’ll push into a mark and then we don’t exceed that Mark because you know I’m trying to make it into the Octagon I’m trying to get injured inside the octagon and not outside so uh it’s just kind of like knowing how much is enough and uh and really just trying to hit that Mark on a daily basis and you don’t have to fly to this or travel to this uh do you like when you don’t have to travel or is there something about getting away where you kind of leave distractions at home uh guys are different with that some guys like fighting where they live and other guys just want to get the hell out so there’s not a whole lot of uh you know family and friends distraction people asking for tickets all these things that happen when you when you’re home you know it kind of reminds me of back in the regional circuit where you had to sell those tickets and you had to like talk to people so I had that Nostalgia but as a fight week uh coaches and I decided that we’re going to mimic like we’re somewhere else so I’m currently in an Airbnb in a suburb that I’ve never been to so we’re kind of uh we’re playing that like that unique yeah fight week game so where my wife is you know 30 minutes away from me and I don’t get to see her until fight day it’s funny what you said before when you’re like I’m not trying to get hurt in the camp I’m trying to get hurt in in the Octagon when you have that kind of mentality I think the guys that are not trying to get hurt in there sometimes they’re afraid to pull the trigger but it’s almost like you know you’re going to get touched you know you’re GNA get marked up like you made peace with that I mean if you’ve seen me fight I mean I don’t like it’s not perfect it doesn’t look pretty but we get the job done and uh yeah it’s just acceptance and and self-awareness like this is how I fight this is why like how I like to fight and this is why people tune in to watch me fight so as long as I’m in this career this is how it’s going to go down and uh yeah I’m just I have an acceptance of who I am and I think you and pory tied uh for nine Knockouts uh and we were talking before about that like as a fighter of course you’re aware but does that mean anything to you like when you’re in a fight obviously you’re thinking of surviving the fight but going into a fight or are there moments in the fight where that you’ll consider that or does it not even enter your mind when you’re in the cage so going back on the uh you know this Camp we’re trying to dismiss expectations I need to react to What You Know Silva is going to do to me I need to react to the game plan and all that stuff well this knockout record has kind of created a uh a prediction or an expectation like I got these heavy hands and they’re going to put in the work and unfortunately when I started uh uh reading this stat my my performance have kind of dipped a bit so now we’re going back to like hey man I might hit him like pillows and I might have to do some grappling or so we’re we’re dismissing This Record it’s cool and everything um but I’m I’m not thinking about it when I’m in there like The Knockout itself itself if it comes it comes it’s not like you’re just looking for The Knockout yeah yeah I mean like with my mat my Matt fola fight I mean I went in going like man I got these hands and this and that like I’m GNA put it on him and look what happens and so we’re just trying to dismiss that like like that like attribute like I don’t have it I need to fight like I’m earning it yeah and couldn’t it also be oh sorry couldn’t it also be that once somebody says it and then people go all right he’s got n knock then everybody’s thinking like all right he’s going to like I have to be aware of his hand it’s almost like once it’s out there not only is it in your mind a little bit but it’s also your opponent’s mind so they’re going to do what they have to do to avoid that you know what I mean so it might even change the way they fight you which would make it harder for you to pull it off anyway right right right and I was like kind of fighting with like this this expectation that I was going to put people away with these hands and this and that but I mean honestly the record surprised me when someone told me because I wasn’t fighting for the record and then once someone told me then it was just in my mind so we just we just stopped thinking about it and uh honestly this camp we were working on a lot more offensive grappling you know just kind of just dismissing that like you know I can just solve every problem with my hands and uh speaking of your record uh and you know you know what it’s it’s kind of weird because when you point it out it’s obviously another individual that’s going unconscious out of all those nine Knockouts is there anyone that should SE oh that was a that that one stands out and that’s a I mean they’re all special but that one knockout that’s the one that I like the most I mean the one I like the most I think the the one that had the the most like beautiful story and the craziest fight was that Bobby green you know that Bobby green fight was was why I’m like why I’m a fighter it’s uh just overcoming adversity and then just like the theatrics of Bobby Green in the fight and then plus ending the fight in a in a knockout was was spectacular I mean these are the fights I’m gonna be showing my grandchildren yes we I actually just BR it up earlier because we were talking about the rankings and they said you were out of the 15 now theyif uh out of the top 15 and Bobby’s at 15 I’m like well that just goes to show you how good Drew is because Drew actually knocked out Bobby so it’s it’s we were just talking about that and yes that was an amazing fight that was a fun one it was a fun one I knew right out the gate that it was going to be that entertaining so that fight was as expected I knew what Bobby was bringing I know what I brought and uh and it we showcased it the only unfortunate part it wasn’t in front of an audience I that shoot man right is not it’s not when when you’re at when you’re at the Apex right yeah yeah so who knows I mean I might take that winner of the the Patty uh Bobby green fight in front of an audience like I I’d take either I mean Bobby will get his rematch or Patty will get these hands that’s gonna be interesting yes how how are you enjoying fatherhood how how old is your child now she is 13 months so she just turned one year and all right yeah right even started she’s not walking yet oh it’s cute so you’re enjoying it it’s it’s wonderful I mean I think being a fighter kind of just makes you a better father in the fact that I mean we live in uncomfort and uh just just being there with your child just brings you in this moment and uh I just forget about a lot of things so uh being a father is is is such a blessing especially in this field is it what you thought it would be like when people tell you like this is what it’s like when you have a kid and then you have a kid is it is it like they described or is it different no I don’t think you can describe it I I don’t think words can like match the emotions behind it you know like when you look at your little girl at the end of a training day then it all seems worth it you know where if you’re single by yourself then sometimes it just felt like a job you know and so yeah words can’t really describe how amazing being a father is I mean it’s work too I mean don’t dismiss that but it’s just beautiful work I agree 100% yeah Jimmy makes them more but I just feel like I end up with a litter of girls yeah Hey listen there’s nothing wrong with that I’m a I got three you know I mean I feel like I’m going to live that life so I might have to call you up for some advice yeah dude anytime man anytime look we we obviously always fans of your fight every fight you’re in is great um and I hope you have a great fight against John Silva I’m interested to see how he handles these things um I I almost feel like whenever we see you we kind of know that you’re going to be good like I’ve never seen you even in losses I’ve never seen you not look good like you know what I mean like it’s interesting more interesting to see how does this guy handle a coming up into the division and facing you uh with the altitude with the fast turnaround so I can’t wait for this fight on Saturday uh featured B uh yeah good luck uh uh Drew uh you’re always exciting to watch I appreciate you guys and thank you for this opportunity to the chat and uh man I hope to put on a good show for you guys you always do all right Warrior we’ll talk to you again buddy thank so much be good hey man you know what after talking to Drew I there’s something I did not consider what uh the whole Colorado thing now that altitude you’ve seen you know listen you know what they say fatigue Jimmy yeah makes cowage of all men I’m not I’m not taking credit for that somebody said some some wise man said that it’s true so uh I’m gonna say drew DOA is gonna win this fight okay I think he’s gonna uh get him out of there in the third round I don’t think jeene Silva now listen he comes out hot I I think it’s in him just to try to finish fight that’s in him and it’s not a bad thing uh up in weight fighting at lightweight Drew Dober even like our producer was saying that little ginger he’s smart sometimes he was saying how you know he’s a big lightweight yeah he’s seasoned power in his hands uh his grapplings not bad I mean listen is what Islam did to him not a lot of you know he does that to most so uh I’m gonna say drew Dober third round stoage what did I how did I did I pick Drew in the second or did I pick uh I don’t know what you said I don’t remember what I picked maybe Jake remembers but yeah I I think also coming up against him with that I said Drew in the second okay yeah I drew in the third okay get him me drag drag him into the deep Waters yeah you know I don’t like Waters he I don’t either he may be very tuckered out by that point who knows you know I think that’s the maybe that that be that should be the goal get there survive that first round you know what I mean then start putting it on them have you been to Denver yes yeah me too and I performed there a lot and it really you have that Brea it really does matter I can’t imagine performing a fight there like I can’t imagine like performing athletically in that in that condition but just doing walking you feel it it takes a day or two to to acclimate uh just just not doing anything physical when I would fight in Vegas I would get there over a couple weeks early because I’d have to get acclimated to Vegas it’s higher than here oh good sorry Matt sorry Matt Santiago uh uh can hop on in two minutes okay great all right and you got to be gone in 10 minutes so you Santiago let’s go that’s great and how long has he been gone for now he’s been was the last time before I want to say 15 months uh April 2023 uh May June July 15 months yeah you had to get some what do you had to get surgery I do not know I me I did know and I there’s so many fights and so many uh hold on I’ll tell you in a second he needs that hand good to put those hands on people you know yes he does I’m happy we get a chance to talk to him I’m almost positive we’ve had him on before though maybe it didn’t I’m not sure why it did I just have a memory of talking to him that’d be really creepy if I just dreamt it wouldn’t that s if I if I actually never interviewed Santiago I just I just dreamt I did and I’m thinking it’s real but don’t you remember talking to him qu line creepy though when you said I know dream of you don’t don’t don’t start it with this please what don’t start that you dream of the guy no but I don’t I’m just like did I create the fact that we’ve um I’ll sum it up for you yes you did we never talked that all right I thought we did we might have I’m almost positive listen Santiago man let’s go yeah it’d be interesting to see how he comes back after this uh this this long layoff um what is his mindset is like I don’t think he was happy with that loss I think he thought it was premature I I know but it was the Kevin Holland’s Hook was uh it was again I’m sure he’s made peace with it after he saw it because that was kind of his face bounced if I remember and it was like his hands were out and holl you thought his Hook was off the hook so Jimmy um what do you think you got some room for me at the Fat Black Pussycat guys I flew here from Long Island come on and your arms are yeah yeah go you just call me up I’ll really just embarrass myself no you’d probably people probably like you because even if it didn’t go well you’d acknowledge it and people that I’m telling you now it’s not going to go well I think people would enjoy it oh I like know what I like about the standup comedy I like to watch it I that’s not for me I I’m just the opposite I got a simple brain I don’t enjoy watching it but I do enjoy doing it you don’t you don’t watch anybody no I watch clips of guys Sam Marill is very funny he just put out another special on Amazon Prime um you know him I enjoy but my top guys are you I thr you H and I like Shane Gillis Shane’s funny Schultz is funny Andrew Schultz is very funny Andrew Schultz I like Mark Norman yep Mark’s great uh who’s the other one I like Rich Voss I I like him in studio when I’m in studio with him we have fun I like Rich Ros he’s funny I know he is he’s very he’s very uh he’s very confrontational yeah yeah he’s funny Tony H hinchcliff hinchcliff is great yeah good on the Netflix special with the roast he did had a very good set yeah all right let’s hope Santiago can jump on soon because I very rarely have a flight to catch very rarely have to jump onto a plane hey man you’re a little bird you gota fly Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy you tell me you had enough tell me people can’t see but you not only said bird but Matt did the bird like his wrists together like a little hours a weeky it’s a couple hours a week I know I do enjoy it another here’s to another 800 wow it’s a lot that’s a large commitment Jimmy we have so much fun we do but 800 I have to watch the house of drag in the last episode and me and my wife we watch the acolyte just the all over it the by the way what what what is uh Michael Chandler gonna do he’s calling out Diaz uh as Santiago gets ready to jump in um what what do you think happens with that I I don’t think I don’t know if Conor will fight him maybe he has just got a toe problem and he’s gonna fix it and fight him I am I don’t I’m happy that Nate Diaz is getting paid he had a fight with uh game bre M mazal Boxing Match was a good match yeah you know what I think I I just know that he won I know that uh yeah and I’m just happy he’s making money man he’s too I’m just happy for that I know him a long time and uh I’m so happy that he’s doing so well so good for Nate Diaz and if he if he comes back to the UFC you got my money I think he will got all my money you got that Jimmy you gotta go Jimmy I know well we’ll give it a couple minutes I mean uh I just hate to be like hey sanago good luck this weekend bye I know I know and then listen man Jimmy’s got got to fly it’s true he must Jimmy’s gota fly he must make a plane yeah he was supposed to be on at almost an hour ago so it’s we love the guy I love the guy but he’s just he’s hit some kind of traffic and something happened I love him too changing my pick no I’m not gonna change my Pi I’m gonna give me uh first of all let’s promote the UFC let’s do that yes it is I love a Saturday when the fights are on I do what’s that I love Saturday when the fights are on so do I very much um let’s see the fights are this Saturday from Denver of course uh I’m just trying to get the we have a huge prep sheet here it’s it’s Rose against Tracy Cortez um and that begins 7 o’clock at the prelims ESPN plus and ESPN the main card 10:00 ESPN plus and ESPN um Rose against Tracy is the main event and of course Santiago against Muslim salikov Drew Dober John Silva is the featured bout um it’s a great card I’m sorry I have to jump out I apologize to the producer and stuff and Matt um I just I have a plane to catch Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy if I was there right now if I was in studio with you I put my finger up to your lips I go I go hush like that all right well I apologize and I say I go don’t you don’t you ever apologize to me I grab your cheeks I go don’t you do that that be Jimmy we’re done for today Jimmy and I to me I’m a little extra silly today I didn’t have a lot of sleep I’m sorry I’ll be I’ll be a little more mature the next episode thank you to Drew Dober always a pleasure Matt I’ll talk to you Monday don’t just ignore me man no I’m not I’m I’m enjoying it all right Jimmy sa light all right and I can’t wait to talk to you Monday I can’t get soon enough talk to you goodbye everybody goodbye unfiled Army oh