On today’s episode of UFC Unfiltered, Matt and Jim get a friend of the show as a special guest co-host in Ray Longo to recap the …
welcome to UFC unfilter please tell me that’s on video I’ve never been happier I’m made for a podcast we’re dangerous listen to me we’re out of here welcome to UFC unfiltered um I think the thing we should start with Matt it’s good to see you is we I guess you’re still away right yes I’m at my in-laws uh place we we left Orlando we’re in tarpet Springs now we it’s Florida yes by the sponged docks when are you coming back the family is do now I’m gonna be back on Thursday and uh I’ll doing Wednesday show from here also that’s nice yeah we chillaxing man we had a good time you know but what about the freaking fights Jimmy well I I you know I’ll tell you what’s not nice is I’m looking I’m going to have to pick two more than you like just to catch up because you have nine and I have seven we’re really neck and neck I’m one win six losses you’re three wins six losses in our picks uh very difficult to pick fights but you did pick U obviously better than I did which is not saying much yes I like that that makes me now which one do you want to start with because I believe we have Ray Longo coming in so if you want to wait for Ry oh he’s in the waiting room well look at this right on time how do you not love what time is it now it’s 2:01 he’s actually a minute late don’t get well he might have been there already though they might have just been Lolly gagging talking to him who knows Matt I bet you money he’s at his Academy now he’s at law MMA garantee it what do you think what’s the OD um I think he’s home okay okay you might be right well you know Ray there he is oh Jimbo I was I was looking for a nice romantic hour with you this guy had come back Jimmy I had the whole thing he had a little fomo I think he changed his mind I wanted to sit and talk to you nicely now we gotta act like buffoons when we’re doing the podcast it’s horrible horrible man Sarah how we feeling buddy I’m feeling great how are you feel and we just got started yes how does it feel Mr Ray Longo that you might you might I mean we thought we capped it at we thought you could walk off to the sunset with three champions me being your first but it it looks like you might have a fourth Champion coming up how does that feel how does that feel that feels pretty good I’ll be honest with you and plus you gotta remember he’s definitely gonna fight for the title and even though we got three Champs Aya Quinter did fight for the title which I think is a big deal and obviously he fought well for the title very well on no notice fought very well for the title on 24hour notice so I never want that to go unnoticed because I I put that right up there with everybody else and of course everybody loves Alo uh but this the same thing just to have five guys fight for the title is huge I think that’s even huge forget about even winning the title but it all started Jimmy with your little friend it all started with a dream with a dream back in 2007 when the whole world was against us Jimmy and that and that son of Rocky Bell boa he believed in himself and he said it and he manifested it it’s you know it’s hard to even compliment him when I look at him now but yeah talk about him like he’s not here talk about him like he’s not here compliment him like he’s not here but I will say this without Matt Sarah there’s no Ray Longo and there’s no Sarah Longo team and he set the tone for everybody else to believe they could do it and he did for Long Island it’s a big big deal and he he got it going and everybody else believe you know he he he set that in motion so you know we don’t get to talk about a lot because everything you know time just rolls and you’re going from one fight to the next right I want to say it now while I have him because you know it’s just I really appreciate everything he’s done for me too so I honestly Jimmy I honestly I like it better when he’s attacking me I’m not good with the compliments the first time I got one funny Matt was just saying this we got plenty of time for that don’t worry about it and mor Rob well start with Mora because I me Matt and I both obviously picked him to win and I thought it would be a 2928 like a cejudo is a tough guy he’s he’s got a very high fight IQ he did land on morab well in the first but morab is just so it’s it’s crazy the adjustments and and the gas tank and he just he really is the machine it’s it’s probably the best nickname in MMA where once he gets into his rhythm uh was he backing up a little bit more than normal in the first did did he approach this one a little differently you know again I’m GNA say this a couple of things with uh with morab just before I even answer that I I don’t like the three round fights for that very reason you know what I mean you lose the first round and then your backs up against the wall like in a five round fight I don’t think Henry sees the fifth round you could see and then that first round wouldn’t have been a concern but you’re all going scoring so like in that second round he ziggs when he should his Zs and he trips again or he falls you lose two rounds then you got to get rid of the guy you got to knock so that I didn’t like but uh I think look he did his camp with John Wood so I think you know if you talk to John he’s gonna tell you like I don’t like I’m not changing anything but maybe try to calm him down a little bit so I think maybe that’s what you see but I think when it’s all said and done when Mor Rob’s going forward and he’s putting that pressure on you I don’t think anybody could stop him you have to really knock him out or he’s he’s just GNA be on you the whole night and it’s normal JY that guys at normal people are not are not the same in the third round as the first round and anything if you see in the fight with Mar Rob talking to Mark Zuckerberg and the audience picking him up walking him over he’s at he’s I’ll tell you right now he’s probably better in the third round than he is the first he’s just he gets he gets stronger I know that’s like a almost a cliche like this guy gets stronger as the fight gets on it’s this is one of the rare you know in instances that it’s true he actually gets he just do that all night you know so I you seen and you heard I’m sure you watched it by now uh Longo on on tape but you heard Joe that’s funny you heard Joe roin saying imagine if this was a five round fight yeah imagine and that was on the third round when Henry was smooshed Up Against the Cage yeah so like sometimes you just got to get your yeah you know that first round is a bit of a even a feeler a little bit Yeah you gotta get your feet underneath you so we’ve seen him lose the first round before you know what I mean so it’s not like that’s unusual but um he look when you love to fight Jimmy like he loves to fight he’s not yeah like some guys are apprehensive they’re nervous you know it’s the complete opposite he’s got such a love for fighting and his it matches his personality with everything else and a good gas tank it’s this is what you see I mean the guy’s laughing he’s fighting a Gold Medal winner and he’s and he’s having a great time you’re not seeing that with a lot of guys you’re just not and maybe that pace in the first round too just maybe that really was out of a little respect for Henry’s power because Henry still can hit I mean uh you know and you don’t want to run in and just try to impose your will with a guy who does have knockout power and and one of the things Henry taking three years off you know in his prime uh it’s tough when you’re a fighter you know I mean like Ted Williams or deasio those guy but when you’re a fighter it’s a different uh those three years make a much bigger difference than they do when you’re playing baseball or or or something else so I I think that really has uh has hurt cejudo but he look Mor Rob undoubtedly earned a title fight five fights ago but now it’s undeniable everybody sees it’s undeniable he’s going to get the winner of om Ali 100% hey Jimmy let me let me bring something up that you said I just want to touch on it what a great uh analysis I not anal like analogy that way but the maio and Ted Williams with taking out of the prime of their career though that was the real Prime of their career and those guys came back and set records and you’re right it’s baseball you’re not getting hit but Muhammad Ali also when he didn’t want to go to the war and he came back and look what he did so that’s right you’re right you know what I mean so that is fighting and it could be done I think I don’t know I I don’t you bringing up Williams and Dadu I almost get sentimental because like dag that’s all I heard growing up from my father was how good he was and how he went out on top he didn’t linger around too long and that’s why I always bring up the khabib thing man he got out on top he’s got nothing to prove and God bless him let me tell I’m sorry mat you I didn’t think about ali though and Ali came back and beat Foreman so like you know what I mean like you’re right I hadn’t considered Ali so yeah I guess it can be done when you’re taking that but Ali’s thing was different he was kind of forced to take that whereas who knows what why Henry did it he just decided to do it different mindset I don’t know I I think Henry did it because he thought everybody would want him back yeah and that didn’t work out so he had to force himself back in there I think that um Henry on paper thought he was a really good matchup with Mor Rob where morab out grapples everybody and he felt that he could be he could hurt him standing and that he could just you know negate negate the Tak down take away the takedowns with uh with his wrestling ability but again and and Longo we’ve seen this many times where you know you’ll see Mor Rob doing straight wrestling with a kid and get get the guy who get the best of them and then also they’re sparring and he’s taking that guy down at will and it’s an odd thing there is a difference between MMA wrestling and just straight up collegate wrestling and everything else yeah look Mor Rob said it a hundred times tenry is gonna beat him in a wrestling match but in an MMA wrestling it’s I I don’t even think it’s close I mean I don’t know what he did what he you know what he did I think is is absolutely fascinating and we like again we’ve seen it for for years with him he just you know I told the story on uh the anic uh podcast yesterday where he really fought aljo for three rounds at 11 o’clock in the morning I’m mad it was insane like it’s like that’s no ShakeOut that was a full-fledged fight yeah and then he went and fought another three rounds at night but how many times in the gym I’ve never seen him do less than six rounds never well it’s similar to like it’s in a way like if you look at his success and and like Cami is in there as far as the mental state look at Sean Strickland what would what’s the now listen these guys don’t share a lot in common I’m gonna say but what they do have in common is if you take away the spotlight the money the if for fun they’ll be doing this bothin right and morab they love it you and Strickland yeah Matt Strickland is to the standup but morab is to the wrestling they could go all day long and they love it and they play around and that’s what really makes the both of them really good is it’s it’s playtime you know what I mean when did morab come when did he walk through our doors there when did you meet up with him in the city because I showed you that video on uh that was before that when he fought in aluer no he got way before that I’m gonna say 10 years ago he was probably 21 I think when he came and he’s 33 now so Jimmy couldn’t speak English I remember and I this this is what I love about Mor and matal back me up on this his first couple of fights when he lost I mean he lost because he he didn’t have the knowledge like one time he got stuck in mou that never happened again you know then I think he Ricky bandas he got taken down he got out wrestled bad in that fight and then he had to make those adjustments he never let the losses put him backwards he just got better and better and better and I think you’re seeing a result of really a lot of Corrections over the last 10 years and it’s all coming to fruition that which is great well Henry said something sorry man Henry cejudo said something which I thought was very telling and was dangerous for shudo and he everyone talks a little but he goes if I can’t beat a predictable fighter like morab and I’m like yeah I know he’s just talking but I’m like the fact that he said a predictable like he probably really thought morab was a predictable Fighter um and it was a really I thought a miscalculation on his part and I think that he thought he matched up like you said better than he actually did uh and I imagine until you’re in there with with him dealing with the fact that he just doesn’t get tired yeah that’s got to be it’s a different it’s a different thing when the guy is just not getting tired uh and and he didn’t it’s crazy to watch it’s really crazy hard work plus I’m sure he’s born there’s some genetics going on with that too no no without a crap but you know it could be it I’m gonna say I agree with your gentics but anybody who knows him he doesn’t stop right it’s not like if he it would really be genetics if he was smoking cigarettes and coming into the gym and but he doesn’t do he always running he’s always doing something and you know as far as the predictability you’re 100% right you don’t know until you get in there because you can’t get a guy to replicate that you know what I’m saying over and over again but it’s almost remember Billy Jack I’m gonna take my left foot on the right side of the head and there’s nothing you could do about that’s Mor Rob I’m gonna throw a punch I’m gonna grab your leg and put you on your ass and there’s nothing you could do about it Jimmy Henry wasn’t wrong the guy is predictable I mean he called it but the the point is like he like like Longo just said you know what he’s gonna do how you gonna stop him how you I mean it’s easy to say you can stop him and when you’re fresh like if he worked with him around maybe he’d be like all right I can handle this but dude that first round they they probably gave that to Henry but then yeah I thought Henry won the first I was close but to keep that pace I know personally from and listen I know I’m GNA be 50 but I know personally I’m bigger than Mor Rob I know personally from rolling with him I’m like this guy just doesn’t stop man like you could in the beginning put him in all bad positions he just doesn’t stop so it’s like Yo dude it’s exha it’s exhausting I felt like I was back on the Versa climb going with the guy yeah yeah that’s something you don’t know until you you know yeah until you deal with it when you look at the matchups potentially for him it’s either gonna be Cheeto Vera or or Sho Ali and I know moraba is offering himself as a backup um you know obviously there’s different challenges with both of those guys with Ali it’s Ali has a beautiful uh beautiful strikes and he’s got such length so the has morab dealt with anybody with that type of a reach Advantage uh with that type of a distance Advantage who strikes as accurately I mean I I don’t think so but uh I mean it’s a good point look Ali you can’t take the guy lightly not only does he is he rangy he’s rangy going backwards which makes it even worse it’s not like he’s coming forward which I think would you know give up his hips a little bit he he could nail you going backwards and uh that’s not going to be an easy puzzle to figure out but Mor Rob’s going to have to take some punishment and he’s and eventually I think he would just break him down yeah and he’s got a good chin Jim he’s definitely got a good chin yes he does yeah yeah I mean Henry land did a great shot on him I forget when it was but he he looked like he got wobbled at one point but I’m like first first round he got a little left hook not not bad but not like morray morray leveled him and he couldn’t get rid of him yeah he came back that same round in start of beating him up oh yeah came back the same round and then the second round was that’s a good point it wasn’t even like he came back in the second round he came back in the first round after that and kind of really you know put a stamp on the first round and as being a stocky Grappler let me tell you this uh Jimmy it when he does close the distance morab that length is gonna be a disadvantage you man you need more space to get get to get back to go you make and those limbs are out there I mean I I mean it that’s that’s a problem so then and then with him it’s gonna be like all right man I got one shot to keep him off me now he’s on me now I can’t get him the off me I mean think of him with doson think of him with Jose Aldo Up Against the Cage working the out of him and I mean Henry might have got away but again when Henry got away that dude that took a that took a toll with his gas tank too so it’s like and as the fight goes on they’ll be a little bit less you know popping these punch without a doubt so I’ll tell you right now I think you’re gonna be look I think we’re talking about the new champ soon I mean he’s I want to see what happens I I with Cheeto and and Ali but uh I think Longo’s getting a fourth champ is what I’m thinking yeah but wait hold on a second but first off we’re both getting a fourth champ but uh the the thing too is I you know I think that like you said that lent will be a problem uh I I’ll never forget remember like Matt jiujitsu was phenomenal but remember when you fought menar I remember you said his legs were so short he was getting back to guard easier than anybody because yeah right right yeah it’s it’s true I also wanted to I mean Matt I think you picked uh Toria um they they were talking about something during the fight very interesting they were saying guys over 35 35 and up have such a less success rate keeping the title and winning the title than guys who are heavier which they say what power is the last thing to go so that kind of makes sense whereas you lose speed with these these light guys you know a little lighter way you you lose a fraction of a second but what a what an amazing um maybe going up in weight twice uh drain volovski a little bit or is it just that there’s a new new blood you know and the new regime is is coming but congratulations to ilot Toria I mean he did exactly what he said he was going to do I did not see vul getting dropped like that um incredible and I thought vosi looked pretty good in the first round I didn’t think he had a bad first round but I actually thought he won the first round and tore just tremendous uh tremendous job yeah no I’m gonna yeah I I I like what he was doing I I thought that wasn’t Vulcan owski he was almost like doing a Muhammad Ali was pot shotting him with the jab and you know you’re taking a short stocky fire plug I think he would have been better off meeting fire with fire and uh trying something else cuz seemed like he I don’t think he’s the best outside fighter even though you’re right I do think he was winning like that but I don’t I don’t think he would be able to sustain it and I think he was trying to I think he was trying to bang that arm with his left kick to take away the power of the right hand which maybe down the line would have paid off so I don’t know I I like both guys they’re both super nice guys man and BK look bolk was a dominating he’s probably going to be the greatest 45 of all time it’s you do get older you know what I mean he’s coming off a knockout he’s a fighter so we jumped back in there but you know he um I I just hope he’s all right it’s two in a row Knockouts it’s not like two losses so he’s a great guy he’s got I love his coach Joe Lopez I don’t know I just hope I hope everybody’s good they yeah take a little time maybe by the way can I give you the stat this is the stat thank you Jake I didn’t realize who was this this is the official UFC stat Fighters 35 and older are one and 22 one win 22 losses men’s weight classes 170 and below in Championship BS I I guess by that point you’ve already fought so many times you fought the top of the division you know your body that that fraction of a second is probably what it is that does who is the one win I would like to guess but there’s just too many fighters to guess and Jimmy the thing with the power to really transfers more over to a heavyweight like a Dan Henderson a Fedor they always have that the light of guys like you’re bringing up something the speed is the problem I had a conversation with a buddy of mine Scott lck he was a fighter I’m going to say maybe fought at like 160 say about that but he said when he would come back or after a long layoff and this is I found interesting and I I love the guy he’s brilliant he said he would Spar heavyweights because the speed wasn’t there he said if he sparred guys his own weight class that were already training he wasn’t getting that speed back like that so he’d have to get in there with the bigger guys so he could see the stuff coming and take his time to get back into which I think is smart it almost goes to like what we’re saying now you know what I mean those little guys it’s the speed it’s the age I mean you get a guy 25 years old and you’re 36 that’s a and the guy knows howle fight’s a big disadvantage I’m with how old were you when you won the belt how old were you when you won Jimmy almost more importantly I was 35 years old when I knocked out Frank trick 34 I thought that you were eluding to Me Knocking out Frank trig unconscious now now he’s a fat now he’s in I not only knocked him out of the UFC I knocked him into becoming a fat man listen listen can you can you can you leave Frank Trigg alone I always see him he’s a really nice guy I beat the prick right out of him you understand because after I fought him I was still I was a little chubby and he would still I hear a little chubby jokes and I don’t forget that now now look at these abs look at J Longo look at that look at that Matt let me ask you a question how old were you when you beat GSP were you 34 it was three years before I knocked that FR trck so I was oh you’re 32 okay okay 32 but I don’t like to brag about that because GSP is such a nice guy’s a nice guy now I’m gonna leave him alone yeah I only like the bully the bullies yeah that’s that’s why I mess he would Jimmy growing up that was him he was if you were a bully you were gonna you were you it was a problem that’s why like him him him and baron were like yeah whatever that water and oil oil and vinegar whatever the it is I mean they would just they they would just ignite like it was not even close yeah I didn’t get along with that guy well C bully who was he a bully Baron oh yeah yeah now he’s now he’s in jail for he in prison yeah yeah yeah you know and I’m a husband and a father so listen you know people go their own paths you know that they follow their own paths hey guys really quick what about McKenzie dn’s fight and first of all yeah what versus was it amandal limos right amand alos yeah alos I thought that I thought first of all what hard what a great fight great I thought Mckenzie D should have got the first and the third in that fight I thought she should have won that fight uh it was close she lost that second round bad because she got hurt she came back she did arm loock attempts to sweeps to mounted she won that third round I don’t give a but you know I might be a little biased being a Jiu-Jitsu guy I’ll watch it again but I remember remember thinking Lemos W won um I I was fine with the decision I don’t remember which round but I remember watching it going yeah Amanda definitely got that so maybe I’ll watch it again maybe you’re right Matt well maybe I’m wrong but I mean the judges said the other the other way but can I tell you know what’s funny met too I had uh I got to talk to her father and I told him the story it’s actually a true story so back in the day Jimmy there was no jiujitsu like I don’t even it was hard to get jiujitsu anywhere so I was thinking you know I you had to bring guys in to do seminars so I was between Pedro saour who was one of hixon’s black belts and Megaton Diaz it was between those two I told him he said I’m seeing Pedro on Thursday so we took a picture I said look I always my I love Pedro s Pedro was a great guy and I said mention the name Sylvio he had a friend we used to have a lot of laughs and I you know we kind of got out of touch but man he’ll always hold a special spot he was a great teacher he got us off and then uh you know and then Sarah came around so I go what am I going to dose they were you know we had to we had to use the big man he was right in the backyard well Pedro’s a great guy and he’s uh he actually cornered against us when I fought his black belt Jeff currry yeah yeah but but but he’s a g that that that like again that that’s what I love about him that meant like you know that wasn’t going to impact anything we just yeah yeah I mean if I lost it would have but I won and let’s um uh also by the way I think the most impressive uh performance uh CU morab I kind of I assumed morab was going to win that fight and it went kind of the way I thought uh Whitaker against Paulo Costa I mean wow did Whitaker look good I mean he’s just a guy who will not go away at the top of that division he just he’s a guy who’s always going to be there hanging out I do think he’ll get another title shot I don’t know exactly when but he he’s just always there so congratulations to Whitaker who fought a great I thought Costa looked good too to that his kicks I forgot how amazingly smooth his kicking is and how beautiful that left kick to the head is and the fact that Whitaker survived that uh which by the way shows you the power of Izzy that he that he actually stopped Whitaker and knocked him out I mean I mean Whitaker is not an easy guy to to put away uh so what a great fight man what a what a great performance yeah I thought great fight and I again you know it’s I’m not saying it’s the same thing but to see Casta like because he’s a the way he’s built get that leg up to his head with that power Jimmy it’s almost not not saying it is but kind of reminiscent of crocop almost you know what I mean like those kicks were firing up there but he caught me by surprise when I was watching the fight you know it’s one of those fights Whit did a great job I mean he was blitzing him he couldn’t handle the straight you know to come running down the pipe stuff but you know he did hurt him with the kick I thought W I thought I thought it was almost like Whit 100% won the fight it was almost like no winner or loser because Pablo Paulo Costa did show up and that’s what made that fight you know cu sometimes you don’t know what you get with him but Huga is really going at it and I said after the first round we were watching it in the back I go this is going to be good because they could both take each other’s shots like they’re not going away for either of them so it comes down the gas tank at that point and I think Woulda you know because he carries less muscle is definitely gonna always win that battle and uh uh also uh you Ian Gary fought very well uh against Jeff Neil I you know Jeff just seemed he just was a little sluggish or compared to Gary um not saying he wasn’t prepared I just Gary’s speed and and and just had such beautiful movement but I found in the third round and again I would probably do the same thing if I was up two rounds to nothing but I felt he stayed away from Jeff Neil a lot more than I wanted him to uh watching a fight and again maybe it was the smart thing to do but it just seemed like he was kind of circling on the outside uh knowing he was up two to nothing which I I didn’t really like but you know he clearly won the fight so you know well done I like safe s s um oh don’t dap him up oh Longo doesn’t like that either when they what did he what did he say don’t don’t dap them up like don’t the high five just stop it with that they kept doing it yeah like that either I don’t like that either man because you know what it is it puts the other guy more at ease like hey man all right we’re having fun let’s do a sparring session instead I remember one time Scott Smith was fighting Nick Diaz and Scott Smith was like a a hard hitter but he’s a bit of like a bone nice guy nice guy good good really guy not a bonehead in like a weird way but like just like a big lug head like in a nice way you know and uh so during the fight like you see him like in the third round trying to touch Diaz’s hand like oh come on man just and Diaz is like you know you and just and you seen Scott like almost get like hurt by it like oh man this guy’s not even playing along so and and then you know then he got stopped so it’s like you know why put somebody at ease you know it’s one thing to touch hands the beginning of a round put that hugging and high five and during it yeah how about after a groin shot like is that is that okay to do like after an eye poke or a groin shot when a guy Taps and just it’s kind of his quick apology that’s fine right like my bad yeah yeah yeah that I go with that but know we saw with Scott Smith and Drago remember they were high fiveing each other beating the piss out of each other they did the same I I never liked it I’m with yo I always I always go back to season four when you were in the you guys were in the van and you said something something and they got Scott Smith he’s trying not to laugh but he’s smirking I’ll never forget the look on his face I he was he was a really nice guy oh we had a fun time on that tough Lor and uh also I think again Matt you know how I love I love a good leg brutalizing I I just it just it’s so painful I I get I’ve had it I’ve had Fighters demonstrate on me uh and it’s just you can’t understand how painful is till somebody kicks you in the leg it really is uh horrendous and Junior tafa who stepped in for his brother uh very last minute against uh Marcos rerio Del Lima oh does Del Lima kick the legs hard sus now now you got now you got now you got both brothers on crutches cause TAA you’re a laugh at that his brother to come out he had to drop out of the fight because he hurt his knee and then his brother took the fight just got his leg kicked off this is horrible the hell is really what the is the matter with you holy crap I Jimmy I’m with you with the leg kick but I’m gonna tell you something so from the knee up I’m with you I I’ve never been kicked in the calf like that they just didn’t nobody was doing it back then I think I don’t know how that feels but even the the thigh used to be a problem yeah I was talking about the thigh too like John Jones demonstrated uh something to me and he was dur it was like he was cutting weight for it was like fight week and he put his Shin in my uh upper thigh I asked him to and I I I I’m not kidding when I think I was to my pants your body just goes into shock it’s such an Agony I I thought it was GNA puke so yeah especially when there’s no adrenaline running Jimmy because I used to do that to people all the time but tap them I used to tap them with my shin because I it’s like four inches above the knee is the worst spot to get hit I think Y and if you hit that femoral nerve right I think it was called dude that people just start limping like and you’re going at I would hit people at 10% so it wasn’t like a shot just I’m gonna let you know what it feels like light and dude it’s brutal if you hit that nerve right you know hey Longo Jimmy said when it happened to him he came and I go dude that’s not normal you know I don’t know what you do with the it’s my body defending myself it’s think there’s a fire so fluid just shoots out hey there’s a great video too you it’s worse if you came and yourself at the same time exactly I don’t know if that’s possible um there was a great uh there’s a video of Fabricio verdum kicking a reporter somebody was doing a story on him and I guess they had talked about it and he just I I think verdum kicked him too hard um he probably threw like a 40 or 30% kick like whereas Jones did by 10 or 15 to me and it still hurt but I mean the guy went down and it’s like you really lose your ability to breathe and you’re right maybe it’s because there’s no adrenaline going um and the fact that I’m not used to it and the fact it was Jon Jones but it’s a uh oh oh this we this kick you know those are brutal and the guy just lays on his back he I know that feeling it’s like you don’t know how you forget how to breathe that not a fighter look at know hey Jimmy I tell you that years ago when H widman first walked in the gym that was one day comes in I go look today we’re going to do something called pain tolerance day and I go you got to take the leg kick so I I’m kicking this leg and then he goes well now I go to you I go no that’s not the way it works he wanted to get me back oh no no no no sorry it was pain appreciation day I’m sorry I said that wrong I used to do a thing listen we’re gonna do a little pain appreciation day it’s funny well he doesn’t get to do it to you like when you go to the doctor after your prostate check you don’t throw the doctor on and go all right now I get the fing of your ass it’s just it’s it’s a way street that’s how it works hey guys what about now listen I’m not thinking this guy’s doing this for uh for a challenge or he’s doing this because he thinks he matches up well I think he’s doing this so somebody will root for him Ian Ian Gary’s calling out Kobe Covington I think this might be the first time somebody’s gonna be rooting for Ian Gary because gu’s not getting a lot of love and the only guy hated more is that Kobe cumington so I think he’s making a Swan move because Kobe’s got a foot out the door anyway he looked like in his last fight he looked bad yeah EDS Leon Edwards has a similar yeah so I think Ian Gary I think that’s brilliant that he’s calling out K we talked about that the other day but it’s brilliant because like you’re right if you’re gonna if if you’re getting booed and you want to get some Applause that’s the perfect guy you know you’re gonna get back on track with that guy forget about the fighting but’ll definitely get the fans back on yeah it’s a great Point too Matt maybe he and Kobe’s five and he’s 10 so it’s not like he’s trying to take a guy lower than him Kobe had called out Wonderboy but at this point with Gary on his way up uh and especially after this win that might be the better fight for Colby if he’s looking strategically not easier fight but I mean as far as uh um like the fight of the guy who’s on his way up but I think that’s also could be a tough fight for Gary too I Colby comington as much as I uh find him irrit itting is still a good fighter and he’s still a dangerous fighter and he still has a great gas tank he didn’t look as good against Leon it’ll be interesting to see how he looks now that he doesn’t have that amount of time off did that hurt him the same way did it hurt Pao Costa who knows but that’s not an easy fight for anybody Kobe is I agree I’d like to see Wonderboy and Gary I think that would be an exciting fight for the fans love to see that I’d love to see that you know you kind of take take out that wrestling component let him just bang it out and see what happens well we’ll see if we’re taking out the wrestling you know um yeah but you know with with with that with that fight if uh Ian Gary’s not gonna start to work as Jiu-Jitsu then you know what I mean because I think one Bo’s got a way of making everybody look silly standard like yeah yeah that one thing with Anthony Pettis which is you know whatever but he was winning that fight and he was winning that fight yeah he I mean you look at the guys he fought standing up and he’s just so good Wonder Boy and you I don’t think Wonder Boy should take a fight with Co because who the hell wants I mean not for anything you know you got have a whole two months of this guy calling you like a pedophile and this and that you know he’s a piece of Kobe why would you want to even deal with that like why would you want to deal with a guy that’s gonna be just un you’re gonna be hearing it why you even have to hear it why this guy’s gonna be going off into the sunset with hope I mean I don’t know how much I don’t think he’s got money to to live off of if he’s gonna a Colby I don’t think that much and he’s just gonna be like a hated dude throughout the yeah there’s something there’s something very weird about him that doesn’t feel genuine that’s the thing whereas with other guys it feels genuine and with him it just there’s not that Redemption after he loses just as a fan I can tell you that Connor for all the that he talks when he loses you’ll see him going yeah he was the better man tonight he beat me like there’s something about that that you like the guy lost the fight and he addresses that he lost the fight um where whereas with Colby he stands here after that obviously very uh one-sided leyon loss and goes I think I won the fight and it’s like I can’t even enjoy that as as a bad guy I can’t even enjoy that as a heal one million percent you I mean I and I say the same thing I really respected Connor I think after his first loss you know it was hard for him to suck it up but he handled that like a fighter because he is a fighter and he knows the realities of fighting and that’s one of them you get caught you lose but I I I agree with you Conor I thought was that was a really redeeming part one of the redeeming Parts is he was great and in defeat yes he took a loss I want to see Conor in the new uh Roadhouse movie but I think it’s funny when people saying how great an actor he is he’s being himself he’s being an out of control fighter that looks like high he’s being himself dude what the you know I don’t know but it’s funny though I mean listen I think it looks like it’s well done and I like that Jake whatever his name is Gyllenhaal yeah man I think I’m gonna watch it you know I don’t think that fight with Chandler is going to happen and I I I I haven’t thought that because again Connor is just like Dana alluded to it he’s Rich he’s get too much money and it if you’re doing movies and promotion and they’re flying your first class somewhere it’s hard to get yourself I’m sure to to get back into the not usada but whatever it is and train again and have to deal with a little fire plug animal like Michael Chandler when you can when you when you’ve got 500 million in the bank it’s probably a tough sell to yourself yeah and you know Jimmy those movies are sitting around the waiting I don’t give a crap who you are it’s going to take a toll on you I don’t give a man so I agree guys maybe I’ll excuse myself Mr the movie stars are talking go ahead Longo go ahead talk about the movie sets guys L’s been doing some movies go ahead goe do tell I don’t know what it’s like set Jimmy am I right or wrong Jimmy go ahead tell me you’re you’re you’re from one um let’s just say actor to another you’re totally right as we know being in the trailer on the set gentleman’s accommodations craft Services the food is right there oh Cookie cookies right there 100% I don’t want to be that guy but I just did a little something couple of months ago you’re EA it it’s not even that I I went in at 4:30 in the afternoon and left at 6 o’clock in the morning so I’m eating Snickers bars at like five o’clock in the morning it’s Brut I think I it’s the most unhealthy worst thing I could ever that’s my my opin and unlike you Jimmy I don’t even get a trailer so I’m stuck out there with just oh no no I was actually speculating What actors I’ve seen guys in trailers I sit outside and I was just pretending that I got one I was lying long what set was this what what do you got coming out to I don’t know it was a little I just did it like a fve I I don’t even know what the name of it is well I’m sure the the director and the producers is very happy that you’re on this podcast not plugging yeah no uh I don’t I really you know was right after my I I I I the bed and I had a great role I was a bouncer at a club and I I I I screwed everything up I’m gonna plug it when you no I don’t even know what it is I we’ll plug it another time I we plug it another time hey Marvin Haggler by the way thank you Jake this is the quote Marvin Haggler said it’s tough to get out of bed and do road work at 5:00 a.m. when you’re sleeping in silk pajamas oh who said that John D Marvin Haggler I thought D her said that I heard I heard that before that’s Marvin hler I love John down I miss him um but that is a true that’s a true quote yeah oh Longo’s appearance is in the film Caper David the bouncer how does our producer get that oh yeah it was K but that’s the name of it yeah I didn’t do anything who starting producer find that IMDb you’re on that m D guys I got I need a new agent you know Jimmy I’d like to have fun I don’t put a lot of emphasis on stuff I don’t you just show up and do it Ray you do your lines you leave whatever whatever they do with it they do with it that’s their business no it was the first time I was prepared and they changed every line there was all right get this guy out of here I don’t want I don’t like get back I want to in go back go down no no go the other way oh here we go Longo you were in the last operative love lies and Larsen I was good Kevin can wait and not to do your line but I’m GNA paraphrase Harry conic likes the freaking lasagna I could have done that I’m sorry you do it better and the Brooklyn Banker I went to the look at this guy big shout out to Kevin James and Mike rigliano they helped me so wait paper you’re playing David the bouncer are you this is wild who’s the star what was uh Jimmy don’t I really oh you don’t okay yeah jimy don’t put him on they were I tell you it was a bunch of great guys but I know the guy that was directing it did The Godfather of Harlem I he’s a really gu jerse he did like 10 episodes I think he’s an upand cominging guy so and the uh you know I don’t know I mean I don’t you know I don’t like to because I’m really a joke when I’m in there it’s not a not an actor but I I have fun with it you know what about the evolution of morab being stuck on the local circuit UFC biggest fight ever an Olympian cannot hold him down yeah you really go back and look at that Matt it’s absolutely phenomenal what he did right you know what I mean so it’s really really good I mean like again he made the adjustments um yeah and was did Henry how many takedowns did Henry have uh wasn’t there like um how many how many did he have do you know I don’t think he had any I think think I think Mor Rob slipped in the I got to rewatch the fight when I’m in there I’m just zoned out so I thought he was down once but I might be wrong I just I don’t remember yeah my memory my memory is really uh is going very very quickly um and also by the way congratulations to vanand Silva uh being announced in the in the Hall of Fame I was just watching for some odd reason a day before his uh confrontation with cha and how cha said that he was the one guy at one point that he didn’t like because he felt like he didn’t understand the back and forth dynamics of selling a fight um and Cha raised the point he said I had to tell his team during this shooting if he attacks me I’m the bad guy if he attacks me and it’s all you guys and just me now there’s sympathy for me he goes you don’t want there to be sympathy for me like he wanted that that Dynamic um sh was a very smart guy selling fights and he he seems to be the guy that everybody wants to be but not just that not not just that first of all can I throw us in him really quick and CH with ch I mean we’re not you know I don’t call him on a regular but not when I see him friendly we were acquaintances you know I like CH uh this is what I’m going to say about CH it took major balls at that time for him to go to Brazil to yes personally was worried about the guy and I wasn’t friends with him I was like dude that’s not that’s scary to go over there because they really hate that’s right if you look that set and this is what I like about this is what I like about CH uh because you could say you’re a gangster all day long but then when you’re in a situation like that he handled himself like a true gangster where yeah Vandy was in his face he knew there was a certain point where okay vandelay doesn’t care because vandelay is as real as it againsts like he’s he’ll fight in the street there’s guys that they give a and not want to blow the the production here and there’s other guys that don’t give a now I got you alone I’m gonna smack you that’s vandelay so vand in that first meeting and I’ve had meeting I had the same thing I me and Matt Hughes they put us in the room in the beginning of the thing and Ronda Rousey Mesa Tate they do that for ratings on these shows because they wanted to have the first thing oh they’re going to fight eventually here they are themselves I guarantee they didn’t know that they’re gonna be the only two in the gym at that time that’s how it works that’s how it was with me and so what happened was when you know they started talking and CH what do you call it saying he can’t wait next thing you know at a certain point the arms length within arms length and that’s the first person to make contact is is CH son he pushed him I can’t let you get close you’ll hear Joe Rogan talk and I’ve he guys talk about this where about a why a sucker punch is so deadly and so dangerous is because reaction time compared to action time is there’s a difference there so like your reaction time by the time I go to hit you like you might you know what I mean by the time you go to react it might be too late you’re on the floor cha knows this as it’s just a street fighting 10one so when he was in his clothes getting in his face he pushed him and now there’s now we now we’re squared up because otherwise I’m not knowing when it’s coming so that was right smarter CH and then vanay got aggressive what he do he took him right down I love that I mean he got broken up got jumped but that that is something where CH could do all the great lines rehears this and that that’s something you can’t fake you know what I mean because so CH is the real deal doing no I agree 100% but a real Sucker Punch is you don’t even see it you’re talking to somebody and then you get it that’s the worst of the worst but at least the guy’s in front of you age with what you’re saying but it’s a little different than than it’s more of a cheap shot that’s or a cheap shot yeah ex I’m saying A Sucker Punch as a cheap shot but it that’s a sucker punch is maybe somebody coming to the side and getting you but a cheap shot’s a cheap shot you know get caught with that he wasn’t gonna get caught with that you know what’s funny Matt so I was talking to John Wood we were talking about like the old gyms like I told you like a pres but I said what about vandalay gim you know we’re having a conversation go yeah didn’t whatever it was we get out of the elevator Vader who’s there vand like wow that is like I think we manifested seeing them but then as I like as the day went on I go oh they gotta be putting him in the Hall of Fame yeah I didn’t know but imagine I we talking about him get out of the elevator and he’s staring at you was you know when we went and we were getting ready you know for our favorite fight that Frank trig fight we were using vand A’s gy yeah yeah uh I I know I was in there with AA Quinter a with me with me a fil of it there’s a film of it of me you and Dr working in there he had something filming for him and oh yeah you’re right 100% 100% yeah I remember saying goodbye to him on camera and this and that he was always cool us F where where’s his gy where is it super nice guy it was he had like one of those like they have like the uh extreme uh that Randy cout what they call ER extreme Couture extreme Couture they have uh syndicate where is at now and uh they have uh and then they had Vander was over there too you know what I mean so vanand had his thing over there and then I guess it closed down I think he’s I think he’s in Brazil Now vand isn’t he yeah yeah I don’t think he’s in the States but I what the do I know but I’m happy to see him get that because he you know that guy deserves to be in there who who who didn’t love watching that guy fight and you mentioned crocop before uh I mean what a thing of beauty to watch him and I remember when he came into the UFC and he took all it was Gabriel Gonzaga do you remember Gonzaga oh yeah he was one day yeah he was a tank yeah he was a tank 100% I was there live when he head kicked them in London or Manchester wow wow was that where that fight was where the crow cop fight was yes it was either London or Manchester because I was it was a less than a month after I won the belt so I was over there watching oh wow you know why because you’re you’re 100 % right because when we opened up that gym in in Garden City that time yeah that’s where I saw Gonzaga came in for some reason I think he was training in New Hampshire or he might have had a school in yeah I think he still does I think he still has a school out there I see him doing some Jiu-Jitsu stuff on the like oh wait Gonzaga does yeah wait a minute that crocop fight was not it couldn’t have been 2007 I’m not lying to you 2007 check it out oh that was part how about I’ll bet you anything on it oh my God I just can’t believe who won the second fight it was crocop was uh oh he knocked out uh Gonzaga in the second fight oh he did huh nobody remembers yeah they fought twice no no you’re right it was the first that was 2015 first fight was yes it was a uh just crumbled him no no Jimmy he’s he’s good with the dates I’m people ask I how crazy is that wow how crazy 2007 I was 32 and I’m 49 now so that was a bit I can’t believe it because it’s 17 years ago like I didn’t realize been watching MMA for that long like it just seems like if you would have said that was 2013 I would that makes more sense 2014 I remember because I was I was a young man at 50 my life my life is going down to a quick man Longo looks good though Longo looks good yes you do get about to get his fourth Champion I come on yeah well Ray look I mean this was uh I I so uh Happy having you on as always come on more often I I wish you were on more you know oh D I’m always available for you guys for sure you know you guys I love bers and Jimmy congrats on all all your success love hearing you on love hearing you on Rogan Jimmy look you’re one of those guys I don’t think you could do anything wrong because you’re such a nice guy like I mean I I always tell people I would always try to get them to say something bad about Sarah at the beginning he wasn’t even biting like you’re just a good you’re a good dude whatever you do I know your little friend there support you and I support the both of you guys thank if you want to hear something bad about Sarah I’ll email it to you I won’t say anything bad about Matt but I will email you my thoughts so if you need to have a few Jimmy Jimmy listen let me just say never put anything in writing that’s right yeah you’re right let’s do some congratulations first to Ray Longo on his work and uh to Mor Rob to the new Champion uh ilot B yeah really I me that guy I’m tell you right now talk about positive thinking and attitude and and it was very emotional if you watch online you’ll see some of his family back home watching it’s really beautiful it’s really absolutely beautiful yeah and there something about those Georgians you just they’re just nice people really great people literally great people yeah tremendous job by him and I think again 27 years old um and by the way just to correct a stat from before one win 22 losses guys over 35 but it’s when they’re facing a younger opponent so obviously yeah that makes it better yeah that’s great but uh thanks Ray it’s always so good to have you congrats on Mor Rob I mean it was it was a really really great performance against a very very dangerous guy um with knockout power and he earned himself a championship fight he earned himself a title shot which he had earned himself a title shot you know a year and a half two years ago 100% I agree real quickly I’m I’m not going to spend time I’m getting out of here but I do think too I I meant to mention this I think it’s going to go down as one of the greatest human interest stories in MMA the fact that he refused to fight his friend they went Against the Machine they both paid the price for it but they they persevered and they’re both doing really good and bar Rob even if it ended to today it it was a it’s a great story on how they never broke that friendship which you know Jimmy in this life if you have one or two good friends that’s huge man a lot of people will never get that they’ll never understand it but with that I’m out of here love you guys thanks for having me on you later talk to you later Longo and Jimmy take care Jimmy thanks buddy thanks Ray we love you thanks for coming on pal Matt I will talk to you I just want to tell people Wednesday night Fat Black Pussycat and uh this Friday I’m in Connecticut Saturday in New Jersey is sold out come see me in Richfield Connecticut or in New York Wednesday night buddy two days is almost too long I know I can’t wait I’ll be practicing my koras end it on that note Jimmy and when I’m back we are training together I really want to I I I I’m gonna make a day to come to the city I a women’s class I’ll bring Angie with me sure jump in there me and you will work to the side you know okay or I’ll even come because I usually we usually train on the third floor um I’ll even come uh out to Long Island one time too it’s just a matter of like when you maybe we can do dinner after I’ll out do night class and then dinner something yeah bring the wife whatever you want to do bring Nikki all right man Jimmy talk to you in a couple days bro thanks pal see you soon bye buddy