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On this episode of Good Guy / Bad Guy…Annnnnnnnnnnd Newwwwwww! Khamzat Chimaev is the new King of the Middleweight division after dominating the former undefeated Champ Dricus Du Plessis on the ground for five full rounds. So, was the fight boring or brilliant? Should the Ref have done more to make it competitive? Plus, the guys reveal who they believe can beat the newly crowned Champ. And, find out who DC believes is the toughest fighter to prepare for in the UFC. SPOILER ALERT: It is NOT Khamzat! Then, this week in MMA history, 12 years ago the Bad Guy himself cut one of the greatest promo’s of all time! You do NOT want to miss Chael reminisce on his epic callout of Wanderlei Silva.
1:46 Chimaev dominates
22:15 Who can beat Chimaev
23:52 Back to back spinning elbow KO’s!
28:38 DC’s house is on fire
30:55 TUF is over…Chael still undefeated
37:16 MMA history: One of Chael’s greatest promos
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205 lb 6 feet tall boy until I met you. I didn't know they could stack crap that
high. Shut up, Joe Rogan. Do not interrupt. I just beat a world champion. You think I won't take out a middle-aged
comedian just for the goddamn pleasure of it? Vanderly Silva 3 months. It's you and the bad guy
and new good guy Bad Guy coming to you right now. I'm Chale. He's Daniel and partner. Speaking of and new, what a
weekend we had. What a new champion we've got. My goodness. The middleweight division must
be like on notice. I've got some reactions from some of the fighters from that division and so much more as we
discuss the new middleweight champion of the world, Hamza Chimaya. And Joe, look like we both wore white today, but I got
like this Lions MMA with the gold. It makes me look like some sort of king. I'm looking good.
Up the plug. Well done, DC. Hey, chill. When I put on white with my
skin, it's so beautifully brown and caramel. It's a good combination, Chel.
It doesn't wash me out. It just makes me feel like I have a halo around the top of my head. I wanted you at Spear to
wear a white three-piece suit so badly that when you came on, I actually felt a disappointment. And I wanted it all so
that behind your back, I could refer to you as boss hog. Yes. Yes. Yes. I would have looked so
good in that. You would have look great. Chill. Hey, back to Hamza. Sorry. You
know how I know a guy has connected, right? We sit with these fighters
constantly, right? You go into training sessions, I do my check-ins, we talk to them. You know when a guy's connected,
when their numbers are just through the roof. Hamzad and I have done interviews constantly over the course of his
career. Some have been great, some have been just okay. Hamza Chimayv I interviewed last weekend, the interview
has uh 500,000 people have watched it. The post-fight reaction video to him
becoming champion has 400,000 in two days. People are tapped into Hamzach,
they're interested in him and after that type of performance, it's only going to grow. But my question to you, I have a
two-parter, right? One, how impressed were you by Hamza? you were you surprised
at the lack of preparation that it seemed Drake has had for the amount of
takedowns coming in his direction? And Daniel, same experience, man. I I put a video out on these guys as as as a
post cap after the fight. My all-time record is 21,000 in 60 minutes. I did 33,000
in 48 minutes. So, I fully understand that the audience is there and I want to hear some of these numbers. I think Dana
is sitting on some records whether it was record for 2025 just for for live gate or attendance or a building record.
There was something and it was in the air partner and we felt it all week. 3,000 people showed up to a weighin.
3,800 people showed up to a press conference. No chance of a punch being thrown. I mean it was he was over. And
there was Cheschnney shirts everywhere. There's Kamzach Chamaya shirts that weren't even made by the UFC. Like the knockoff shirts the dude sells out of a
box out of the street. They were everywhere. It was an incredible thing. I've only felt that one time in my life and that's being in Vegas on a Conor
McGregor fight week when the Irish load those Jumbo Jets. It was incredible. To your point, I mean, when a star is born,
a star is born. Look, wasn't I surprised DDP couldn't stop the take down. If I'm to be critical, I would be critical of
one thing. There is a immense narrative of the greatness of wrestling of Chamaya. And that might be true, but
that's not necessarily what we saw. Look, there was 11 takedowns. It was the same takedown. There was one thing that
Jamay did and it was that double late takedown. He never went to a body lock. He never went to a snap down and under hook. He never did those things. It was
one position. And that surprised me. That one thing did surprise me because I knew going into this fight if he looks
for takedowns, he looks from from the open, not the clinch, and he looks for a double. You want to go a little further?
He likes to back you close to the fence before he does it. Similar to what Kabib did. I'm only sharing there was nothing
there that was a surprise. And I think that that's actually a backhanded compliment. If a if you know what the
guy's going to do, much like Mike Tyson with that uppercut and that hook, but you still can't stop it, then that now
you're talking about a a level of effectiveness. And it did surprise me. I mean, I've got Drias Die on a very high
pedestal. I still do, Daniel. When you're 15 minutes into one of those fights, the math no longer works. You
are not capable of winning that fight outside the Hail Mary punch. Dick has stayed out there like a man. He stayed
out there trying to solve that problem. His conditioning was on point. He tried to win that fight. I got to at least
give him that. I give him credit for his mentality. I just I just w I I You got to show a
little more like Tom Zach wanted to take down Kamaru Usman all those times. Just couldn't because if you don't change the
takedowns when you got a guy that recognizes the takedowns are coming, he does things to defend. For me, the
biggest issue with Drius' takedown defense was he just wasn't taking his legs back. You got to just take your
legs back, right? Sprawl. At least make it hard to get those takedowns. But
ultimately, Hamza Chimayov does this to everyone. And he seems to be getting more effective at it. Especially chill
if his cardio is up to to to snuff. You talked about the bigger gate. That was the biggest gate in United Center
history. The Chicago Bulls played there. Oh, they did announce that. They did announce that. The biggest gate in the history of the
arena when the Bulls have played there for years. This is a massive event led by a massive
star. But there is this segment of fans that say that while dominant, it was
boring. Ch. I was not bored. I was not bored. I thought that Chamaya fought.
Well, if you hit somebody 500 times, how can you be bored by someone hitting
someone 500 times to like 30? He didn't get hit with a significant strike until probably round four. It was dominant as
dominant comes. But chill, I have to ask the question. It was a bit of a slow
performance at least to some. Does that hurt the idea that Hamzach Chamay is so
dominant in this division? Daniel, in middleweight history, the the biggest gap that we've ever seen in
strikes is a number I know perfectly cuz I had the record until Saturday. It was
311 strikes by me, 11 by my opponent. It was very lopsided. Now, I only tell you
that because Jeremiah almost doubled it. Daniel, he had 527 strikes against 49. And by the way,
those 49, 46 of them came in the very final round. There was three rounds where he was never touched. I mean, this
really was an incredible thing. And I wish we had a mat right now. I wish you and I could could kind of show the audience because I see it the way you
do. The first thing you got to do is get those legs the heck out of the way. The next thing you can do when a guy is
tight is take your arm. Now, you got to really straighten it. You got to straighten it. and then he has a straight arm and you just scramble out.
The guy is cannot control you. Here's a secret. If you're ever fighting a wrestler, he can only control the fabric
that you show up in. If you get him anywhere except for on your shorts, he'll slide right off. And that's one
thing that that straight arm can do. I I want to bring that to you because where does Drius go from here? And you want to talk about whether that fight was fun or
not? It was so dominant that poor Drius. Generally, you're a great champion like he is. When you're setting gate records,
a rematch would be on the table. It's not It's not It's not being mentioned or looked at. Yeah. And even if we get
there a year from now, it's a little bit hard just because of the gap. Daniel, there was three 108
rounds. I don't believe that we've ever had that in history. I can't come out and tell you that's a record, but it's a
record for off the top of my head. I share that because if they were to rematch, we would have to have good reason to
believe that Drake has solved this one problem. Daniel, can I make one more thought? And I know I'm breathing a
little bit, but but it was so amazing to me when you talk about what was boring versus what was tactical. Chamay started
doing some jiu-jitsu. And when he did, Drius could go with him. When Chamay started throwing the hooks in and
looking for that rear naked show, Drius knew where he was. Drias knew how to reverse that. He knew how to get his
elbow there. He knew how to tuck his chin. He did a very good job. So Chamay actually controlled this from the in
between. He stayed behind him. He pulled those hips one way. He pulled the hips the other. He bumped into him. It was
very basic, but he found more success in doing less. He found more success in not
putting somewhere familiar and just doing it from the outside. That I have never seen. For a guy to keep another
guy down without a leg entanglement of some kind, I've never seen. And that for me was very fascinating. You know how
hard it is to just keep somebody down that like like you chill. When guys, if
I have a guy that's going to fight or something and they go, I want to tape my ankles. I'm like, "No, no, cuz I'll wrestle the foot." One of the biggest
issues I had when I started fighting, chill, was no longer having the shoe. I
tell my guys all the time, my high school team, wrestle the shoe. Wrestle the shoe. Wrestle the shoe. Because the
moment your leg, if you're on a single leg, comes over that shoe and it's stuck on the the thigh, they just put the foot
to the mat, they start wrestling back into you. You always wrestle that fabric, that cloth. So, the shorts is
where Hamzot needs to hold him from. But again, he spent the vast majority of his time on Dracos Duplex's chest. He was in
a crucifix jail. Five times. Five times. Chamaya put him in a crucifix. And Jail,
in your career, how many times have you crucifixed people? It's a very difficult thing to do, right? Five times in one
fight is crazy. Five times including the practice room is probably my number. And Daniel,
believe me, I wanted to. I'd have loved to have got what a dominant position. That was another thing though, or I did
I did gain some respect for Drius. I mean, I realize these weren't the hardest punches in the world, but they weren't the hardest punches because
Drikus would tuck his head. Drias would come into the body. Whatever it was Drius needed to do to to increase his
chances of surviving positions, he did. I mean, he was very great. I got to tell you, partner, I never thought Drius was
going to win the first round. I never thought he was going to win the second round. I mean, we're going into the third round, and I'm still of the mind,
hey, this fight hasn't started. Drius is still coming. And if you looked at Drius in the corner, he was smiling. He was
the one talking to the coaches, not being spoken to. If you look at Jama, very stoic, reserving his injury energy,
taking in information to go out there and try to rinse and repeat another round. I was into that fight. I did not
think even going into the fifth round that Chamaya was going to completely dominate like that. But I do have to
come back to one thing, which is he dominated with one move. One move. So if you are in that middleweight division
and you go into a Chamaya fight not prepared, right? I mean he is telegraphed. He is now I got one way to
get you down. A double leg and it's from way out there. It's crazy cuz I I yell at people
don't shoot. Shooting does not work. You got to punch him to move him to shoot because shooting straight on doesn't
work. And then I watch Hamzach Chamay do it 11 times or 13 times and score 11 takedowns with it. So maybe you can
shoot. Talking of Dracus' coaches, they were
encouraging early, but I thought it was very telling after one of the later rounds, his coach walked in and he went
like that. Almost like flabbergasted like, "God, how do I get him going?"
Well, my Vistister said, "Hey, we could have done a lot better, but I also think
that the ref should have done better. He could have made the fight a lot more live or a little bit more live. I I
don't know if he's saying that there should have been more standups, but you can't stand a guy up chill if he's
either on your back or he's got you in a crucifix. And honestly, that was where
the vast majority of the time was spent in the fight. Dracus would look into Hamzot. That was great. He would have
the crucifix, the side that Hamzot was on, he would look into his side. So Hamzot could only hit him right here. He
never got to hit him on his chin. But you really can't stand him up if he's in
those dominant positions. In round five, when Hamza started holding, there was about two minutes left and I said, "He's
going to get one more chance." I go, "The ref's going to stand him up." I go, "It's round five and he's not advancing
as much as he had prior." What do you make of that statement, though? They should have stood him up
more. No. And I see it the same way that you do. Was the ref. Listen, Daniel, if you're in the guard,
you're fair game. You've got to be staying busy. But if we got to a crucifix, we're now two steps ahead at minimum. We've now got a taked down plus
a pass. Then if you start to look for a position, you could be three and four steps ahead. And my only point is if one
guy is two steps ahead, it is now incumbent on the other guy to make a move. And there was times where Chamay
looked like he was trying to give Drius an ability to scramble. Now, he wasn't doing that to be nice. He was getting greedy and try to take his back and try
to finish him. But I'm just sharing with you to act like the referee should then step in and do it. It's just not the way that this game is played. And I had a
chance to speak, Daniel. I asked Dustin Porier about this. And I I really was worried that I was going to be sounding
rude to Dustin, but the only time I've seen this in championship history is when Kabib did it to Dustin. And I
happen to remember Dustin telling his corner how frustrating it was. Hey, this guy's a step ahead, man. He won't give
me any space. So I just asked Dustin, I want to know from Drius' standpoint, what is it like to be in that spot? What
is it like round after round, rinsing Pete, have the numbers against you? Know I've got to knock this guy out, but we're on the ground and it's so hard to
do. Dustin said, yeah, it's real. You know that you you are doing those calculations in your head. You are
thinking about I can't keep this guy back. I see combinations, but he's got to let me go. And generally, that's what
a fight is. It's a trade. I go, then I cover while you go, then you cover while I come at you. And we trade this back
and forth. It really was amazing to watch how greedy and selfish Jama was.
He didn't give up anything. He wasn't give up any opportunities. Why I'm sitting here bragging to you that he went 527 against 49. He doesn't think he
should have let those 49 go. He was being hard on himself. When I spoke to Chamay after the fight and Daniel, he
was given a black belt that night. I'm not sure if you saw that. So when he comes to the when he comes to the ESPN desk, his coach is holding the world
title. He came on Sports Center wearing the black belt. And I just thought that was very telling to his character and
who he is. He decided to show a respect to his team and to his coaches over the
company's belt. And I just thought that was an incredible thing and I wanted to bring that to your attention. Yeah, he's
I I think that Chamaya's uh man, he's he's going to be very difficult for anyone that um has to prepare to try to
take that belt off of him. It's very difficult when it feels like it was always expected
and then it happens, right? Because since we saw him on Fight Island, people said, "This kid's going to be a champion." And there was a a wait to get
here, but the moment he got there, he was able to deliver and deliver in really impressive fashion. Chill. That
made me think there are some very difficult people to prepare for in the UFC. MVP comes to mind. Islam, Morab,
Iliot. Is Hamzad the most difficult person to
prepare for in the UFC? I got a thought on this, but I want to hear yours first. Well, one thing about it, DC, we we're
pretty sure as analysts, we're pretty sure as outsiders that there was a path to victory and it came through the
conditioning. It came through the fact that Chamaya has never been in the main event club, let alone the five round club. It was an incredible thing and I
do think that that sparks a little bit of a fear in the fellow opponents as opposed to a positivity. Jama did close
some doors. He closed more doors than he opened. even if we want to be critical of of the action or or the submission
attempt. So, I want to hear your thought on this. I I think that's a very tough question, but I'm going to go with no. What do you
think? I I don't think so because of one thing you said earlier. It's only a double
leg. That That's why it's a double leg. Um I think a guy like MVP is more difficult
to prepare for because you can't prepare for the weird striking and the way that he fights and his his length. But I also
think like Morab is insanely difficult to prepare for because you really can't prepare cardio. You can't prepare cardio
to go to the level that Morab's going to drag you. Um, and you can't prepare for
power when you fight Iliot. There are a lot of guys that are very tough to fight. I just think that Chamay is very
difficult to prepare for Ch. But because it's the same takedown, I think that
once you figure I can defend that takedown, I at least have a chance to stand with him. And on Saturday, he did
not seem as comfortable standing as we have seen him in fights past. So that's the only reason I say no to him because
I believe that it's that shot, Jill. And you said it. They tell you what you're going to do. But here's the thing,
right? You said Kabib used to do that, too. He did. Kabib let you know he was
going to take you down and you were going to have to deal with him on the ground. The problem is you didn't know
how Kabib was going to take you down. Kabib could take you down from a single. If he pushed you against the fence, he'd
get the single. He might lift you. He might kick your foot down and trip you. He might just trip you. He shoots the
double. He Kabib had a lot of takedowns. Hamzad is just relying on the double
leg. And you and I know uh that double leg is is very dangerous, but it is one
of the uh the it's one of the more safe takedowns that
we as wrestlers would be prepared to defend stepping in the octagon. Now, I'm talking myself.
Other fighters may think he is, but I'm talking like if that was me that had to fight, I would not say that he would be
more difficult to prepare for than the rest of those guys. Daniel, Daniel, by the way, by the way, it is it looks just
like a wrestling takedown to me. If I really wanted to to compliment and break it down, he comes a little lower on the legs than say a George St. Pierre or
Randy Couture did, but it's just he's grabbing two legs and knocking you over. Let me ask you, I think that's I actually think that's I
actually think that that shooting down towards the legs makes it easier to defend because when he when chill, when
the guy double legs you, right, even if he gets to your legs, you're going to sprawl. But even if you can shove his head in the middle and he ends up on one
leg, you just turn and kick away. There's no shoe. Dracos could have turned and kicked away 10 times on
Saturday. He just did not seem to have the knowledge to do it. I just want to ask you like is is that MMA wrestling?
Like George St. Peter never had a wrestling match, but he could out wrestle everybody in the cage. Is this MMA wrestling? And I want to know
specifically if his opponent was Bo Nickel, do you feel like he is going to be scoring 11 out of 13 takedowns? No,
no, because Bo was G. Look, and it's just wrestling, but but I think that if Chamaya fought Nickel, he would beat him
in the standup, right? Because Chamaya is a world champion, super high level fighter. So, he would take B to where B
wasn't comfortable. And I don't know that he would use as much energy trying to take him down. But again, he took down Kamaro Usman. He just didn't take
him down as frequently because he couldn't once Usman started to kind of get an idea of where the takedowns were
coming. So, I do believe that if it was like a bow nickel or um hell, even if it
was a George St. Pierre back in the day, George would make the adjustments to where he would have to start wrestling down on his legs with no shoe and he
would start to kind of turn and kick and float. When I saw GSP float that that that Barzigar of Josh Kosek, I was like,
"Hey man, this dude knows how to wrestle. He knows how to wrestle." So, it's like, yes, I think his style is very very
good. I think he's the best in the world. I think it'll be very difficult for the crop of middleweights now to get
past him. But I do believe that if I, Daniel Cormier, the wrestler, was preparing for Hamza Chamay, I would
prepare more for a striking fight because I would know that it would be difficult to take him down one and I
would make it difficult for him to take me down and then he wouldn't want to use the energy to continue trying to take me
down. I see it that way. Right. You agree?
Yeah, I see it that exact same way. I've just been a little surprised. I mean, even the entries, but I mean, not for nothing, he's walking a guy down. You
want to figure out how to get into range and fight. It takes it takes some times and you slip something. He doesn't slip anything. He just keeps walking towards
you. Eventually, you're going to hit the fence and you can't back up. I like that part. I like that Chamay will come and
get right into your face because it does open the opportunity for some strikes. And I'm also with you. This whole idea
that he's a world champion only because of the double leg. Well, everybody uses plan A. Nobody goes to plan B unless
they have to. And I do think that Chamaya's got that weapon. I think he's got that skill. And I think that might be one of the great things that he takes
away from this fight is a misconception by everybody that he can only do one
thing that I personally do not believe. But that's also from seeing him in training, seeing and talking with some of his coaches and his workout partners.
But I do think the champ's got a little bit more to offer. I think what's coming next is fascinating. I've never seen 185
pounds so difficult. And I know Ianov and and Kyle are going to get a good look put on that match, but RDR sits out
there towards the top somewhere. I'm not sure right where he's at, but Daniel, he's not more than one away in my
opinion. And and and that's the thing about the Ritter, right? D Ritter is a tremendous
grappler. So I believe that when Hamzad fights him, it'll be more of a standup fight. Now the Ritter has knees for days
and he's massive at 185 lbs. RDR is dangerous for anyone, but also are so
many others are also. So, Phil Ro is uh
confident that he doesn't think Chamay could do that to uh Kyle Bahalo. But
then you think about all those great guys, Joe, if that was a guy you had to send out there to fight Hamzot and you're betting your money on them to get
a victory, who who would that be? I love the idea of Kyle getting that opportunity. I I don't want to continue
down my usual road of dismissing INOV. I when Iv got over on Izzy, he got a brand
new look from me. And but but if you made me just throw one name at you, I mean, listen, not for nothing, I really
want to see him go with Bo Nickel. That's just personally, we are not there. Long time coming, no chance. I Yeah, I understand that we are not
there. I like that idea. I'm not dismissive to Fluffy Hernandez, by the
way. But the the one that could offer the biggest threat from what we've seen in the past and that's going to be
Darren. One thing that Chamay and one of the reasons his fight with Gilbert Burns was so fun uh and so unusual is he
respected Gilbert's ground game so much that he wasn't in a huge hurry to get him there like he was say Saturday
against Rickus. And I only offer you that that Dur's ground game is respected in the same regard. He's a tremendous
jiu-jitsu player but specifically from uh the bottom. So, I I I like RDR right
now. However, I think that Kaio and Imanov both have a little more skills than they have shown us, and I don't
hate the idea of Shawn Strickland either. Now, I know that's a little down the road, but there's a lot of middleweights, I think, is my larger
point. Yeah, there's a lot of great middleweights right now. So, the champ will have a ton to to go through to keep
defending this championship. But, I tell you, man, it was very exciting to see Hamzach finally break through. And you
know to see a guy that just had to shine from the moment he got there ultimately
get there cuz usually there's some bumps in the road on your way to a championship. Not for Hamzachimay but
right before then chill we had two crazy knockouts backto back spinning back
elbows don't don't happen very often and people that throw them generally they
don't work as well. Well, it sure worked for Carlos Proz at the end of round one
against Jeff Neil. And boy did it work for Lone Murphy over Aaron Pico. The
sound that these elbows made when they connected were crazy. Chill. That was
nuts. What were you guys doing up on the set when you saw that happen? Well, you could have counted under
boxing rules, you could have counted to one or you could have counted to 1,000. That fight was going to be over. Listen,
it broke my heart when that happened to Aaron Pico. To answer your question directly, Aaron Pico might be the
hardest worker in our industry. That's a literal statement. He might be it, but
if he takes anything away, please, I want him to use that energy,
that practice energy on things that he's going to see in the octagon. Aaron Pico is the kind of guy on his way to
practice will pull over and run up a mountain because somebody told him it's going to be hard and nobody else could do it, but then he would miss that practice. And I I want to see him in the
in the arm bars up against the wall. I want to see him punching and kicking. I want to see him using his energy in
training at things that we're going to see in the actual contest. Now, that's me being critical. But if you got the
work ethic and the youth, if you got the opportunities of Aaron Pico, you know, like all of us, we have regrets when
it's over. We look back, go, I should have done more of this. I want Pico to spend more energy and effort in a day
instead of running that mountain doing something that we're going to see in the actual cage. and it was very difficult
for me to watch. But then for Lone Murphy, I think that he became the number one contender. And if you listen to Vulcanowski, he did become the number
one contender. So that announcement could be coming soon, but it's now to a position where I'm expecting it. It was
that impressive of a performance. And as far as Produs, man, this guy is oozing Machismo. I mean, this this guy, he's
doing the he's got the cigarette gimmick like Mayorgga. He's he's got the the whiskey gimmick like McGregor. I mean,
there he's got the tattoo. He's doing the call outs. He's part of the fighting nerds. This dude checks a lot of boxes.
And frankly, it was nice to see something good happen to him cuz I know what it's like to be part of a
colossally successful team and you look around and you're the only one that that
isn't holding it up. And whether that's fair or not, it's at least how he felt and that was his motivation. He didn't
ever want to feel that again. And for a while, he's not going to have to. Jail. He comes out to Rick Ross, a Brazilian
dude with a mustache just rapping. I was like, "Man, this Carlos Proz got some swag." And he goes out there and he
fights the right way. This dude is a beast, man. And if he continues to fight like he did last weekend where he's
showing patience, timing, he said that he wanted to not rush knockouts anymore.
And ultimately, he got the knockout because he took his time. But make no mistake about it, he was starting to pull away from Jeff. He was starting to
pull away from in the competition. And that's why he got that knockout. We've seen Jeff Neil lose to the best fighters
in the world, Gary Shaot. Nobody's done him like that. Nobody has done him like
Carlos Protest did last weekend. So, that was sick. And then the Aaron Pico knockout. Look, man, I'll tell you it on
two sides. I've known Cheeks, Aaron, we call him Cheeks, since he was a young boy.
For me to watch him get knocked out like that again and him get completely stiff, it makes me sad because he's given us
some great knockouts, but when he does lose, it usually happens like that. And I hate seeing a young man get knocked
out in that way. I think you should take some time to rest, recover. I wouldn't like to see Aaron Pico fight again until
next year. Stay away from this thing because that was a bad knockout. But for Leon Murphy, it's exactly what he
needed. He was 16 and0 going into this thing. He hadn't lost, but nobody was
talking about him as if he was the number one contender. Nobody was talking of him like they should have the entire
time. He's always been tremendous. He's always been an amazing fighter. His footwork, his striking next level. And
he was able to have that moment that really separates you from everybody else. Every sport jail, they talk about
having the moment that defines your race. You want to win the Heisman, you got to do something spectacular. Hell,
Desmond Howard ran a punt back and did the Heisman polls in 1997. We're still
talking about that today because it was that big a moment. That was his moment that ultimately will get him a
championship opportunity. And honestly, he matches up very well against Alexander Vulcanowski. So, I mean, it's
a great fight. The greatest thing for Murphy, by the way, if we're shining him up, I'll leave this final thought.
Hold on, Jill. fire. Hold on. Oh, a few moments later.
Now, DC, you just stood down and you said there's a fire. What do you mean there's a fire? No, I got a I got a couple idiots. My
kickboxing coach is in there making coffee. The coffee comes over the thing and it starts smoking. So, it gets into
the fire alarm. My son runs downstairs. Everybody's panicking as I was. And
ultimately, it was just a Brazilian dude trying to make coffee. know that you could burn a liquid enough to trigger a
smoke alarm. You just talked about understand it's a very sensitive smoke alarm. I'm scared. Chill. I'm a scared
man. I'm a scared man in my in my Was he making coffee? Oh, but you know what? I'm not I'm not quite done here. Was he making coffee over the stove or
like you have a coffee maker and sometimes it What happened? I have a coffee maker, but he's he's an idiot, Chill. So maybe
he didn't put the uh coffee pot in so it must was just hitting the ground. hitting the ground, hitting the thing,
and it's like, "Sure." No, they've thought of everything. The technology is incredible, but you're
right. They are not idiot proof. That that's a detail that that now I do understand. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. Make your point, Leon,
about he's talking to Luke Borat. Yeah. I was just, you know, one thing about Leone and one thing that they were so happy with when that fight was over
and even though it was all in the first round, Leon was losing that first round. He was taken down, then he was taken
down again. Those shots to the body that Aaron Pico was ripping. Oh my. They're the best body shots we saw of the entire
night, not just of that contest. And Lone had to deal with that and Aaron walked him down again. He's up against
the fence and it looks like it's going to be rinse and repeat. So, he changes his strategy. The one thing that Drius was not able to do all night, Lrone did
in that moment. Went to the Spain attack and got the knockout. And I see it the same way. Like, if you want me to be excited for Lrone versus Vulcganowski, I
have to know that you can you you can uh deal with adversity because you're going to experience something with Vulk. I
really did think that was a big moment. I'm with uh Luke Barnard on this that the greatest thing that Leone did is get
up after he was put down twice. Yeah, absolutely. Congrats to Lone
Murphy, man. That was that was a big deal. Ch the Ultimate Fighter Rap for the Flyweights on Saturday night. And
just like you said, Joseph Morales is the champ. Dude, that was uh man, what a
performance by Bole Ch. I got to tell you, he's been good the whole time, but he was never that good. He looked
amazing. Daniel, that is just the truth. And I started to experience this the day before when we were doing the weight
cut. He did a lot of moving around, a lot of shadow boxing. And I was starting to see it. I even went home and I told Miss Brendy, she said, "How do he look?
You know, you're hurting in that moment. You're not trying to look great." And I was still seeing these body mechanics. And I said, "Honey, I never seen him
look like this." And I said, "I think he just had a good day." So, we get to the arena on actual fight day and he starts
warming up and I'm watching the same thing and Daniel, I even took out my phone and started started filming it. He
was working out, but there was there was some live goes from a grappling standpoint with Uriah Faber, his top coach, and I never seen him look so
sharp and then he couldn't get tired. We had to end the warm-up and you've seen these where where the guy has so much energy. You guys stop and we're gonna
save that for the game. He soaked himself through a shirt plus through his sweatshirt. I mean, it was one of these intense moments where walking to the
ring, I'm realizing he's either better than even I knew he was and he was my first pick or he's just having a good
night. Either way, this is a very special time. Then when he gets in the ring, Daniel, he's got a look on his
face and it was a look of pleasure that he was taking the moment in that he was able to enjoy it. And that is a very
rare thing as badly as as you'd want somebody to do that. A lot of guys go their whole career and they don't get there. And he just stayed calm. I had a
apprehension with Alibi because of Alibi's pace. He I mean he he can outwork everybody and he did on a by-
basis during the Ultimate Fighter and we all saw that and I even told Joe, listen, we don't have to beat this guy
for 15 minutes. We got to beat him for seven and a half. Go steal the first two
rounds and if that energy starts getting to you, we can play a game in the third. Just go grab two rounds. And I said that
as a way of lessening some of that anxiety when when he went out there. Daniel, I was so impressed from Bo's
standpoint with the boxing, with the kickes, with his ability to listen to his coaches and react, his ability to
stay off the fence, and then those submissions. Come on, partner. That was a world class performance by Bo. It
looked like he was the guy that's been in there with people like Davis and Figero in his career. Chill. The way
Joseph Morales looked on Saturday, they could have fought 40 rounds. He was going to win them all. He wasn't tired
at all. He was the one dictating the pace. He was going to submit a Lebby at the end of round one, right? It looked
like he was about to submit him at the end of round one. Then he submits him at the end of round two or in the middle of round two. It just looked like two guys
that were on a different level. And so it makes me gain respect for him Rodriguez, right? Split decision with
Bo. And uh but I'm proud of Alibbe. He he he he's a good guy, man. And he
worked his butt off and he put himself in that position. But ultimately, you told me, you said, "Daniel, make no
mistake about it, they're all very tough. My guy's the best, and I only need one guy cuz only one guy can win
this. So, it doesn't matter everything that happens along the way, I believe I have the guy." And uh that was proven to
be true on Saturday night. But on Saturday night, uh you also uh uh did
something that makes us start a new segment called Sun's Saturday Night Saliloquis. What's that, Jill?
Saliloquy. Beautiful. Could you spell that for us, DC? All right. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. S O L L L I O.
Not looking Not looking down at He's notes. All right. So now you must understand,
you got to understand this from my perspective. If I can just set this up for the audience. I believe that we settled the Ultimate Fighter Saturday.
That's open to conversation. Say, but that's not true. But but but it's what I believed only because you had lost two guys at the
scale. So only one championship was given out and it went to Team Sonic. So, I'm in the process of trying to convince
the world of my position. You must know that was one of my goals. So, tweet number one, Daniel and me are bros, but
everybody knows when the when the cage doors closed, pal, you got to go. Number
two, son and his team was stacked with defenses and attacks. We're running out of room to hang all these damn plaques.
Number three, oh my god, they wheeled deal they wheeled dudes out on gantries and I cleared out Daniel's
pantry. Now bring the psycho fantry and my final tweet. It's always my night. Be
sure to get it right. Team sun and one even before the fight. D. You're doing
all this while working ESPN. Dude, come on. I was hoping you would see it. I was hoping like your phone would on Twitter
while you were commentating that you'd have to address it. Joe, how about how about winning
gracefully? Like is that not a thing in the sun household about winning gracefully? Daniel, I'm attempting to
steal. I'm attempting to rewrite history and proclaim that we won the whole thing. Okay. So, I've already sold my
soul. Now, I'm just going all in. Do you understand? You deserve to after that. You deserve
to after that, man. That was uh Somebody said that the the coach of the winning team gets a car. I'm getting
ready to steal your car. That's just so you know what's going on here. I still have three. I had three in the final
shell. So, no, I won the Ultimate Fighter. I didn't see two of them. That's the I
didn't see two of them. So, wait. So, you think that their fight that's just a fight on NoJ UFC now? That's not an ultimate fight.
Well, that was discussed here. Here's the thing. And And no, I don't know that my argument has legs. But we didn't have
an agreement. We have an agreement for the Chicago is supposed to happen. That was the agreement that we have a
tournament. The only tournament, the only tournament sport. If anybody would have missed weight or got hurt, whatever might have happened while we were
filming, there would have been a forfeit. It's a straight line bracket, there would have been an advancement. So, I I am hanging my hat on that
argument. I mean, I'm I'm not done. I'm going to go to Craig Pelgian and say, did we agree to conclude this in Chicago
or not? And if he says yes, I'm going to come back and revisit this and I am trying to take this victory. That part
is true. I realize I'm on weak legs. I am not done. I believe that my team won the ultimate fight.
My car. Joe goes, I want my car. I want to take your car.
I have enough of them. Chill. You have enough of them. And mine got stolen. I still haven't replaced it. So, what are we doing here? All right, Chill. This
week in MMA history, bro, you sub Shogan Hua and then you cut one of the most
epic promos of all time. Take a listen. Manderlay Silva,
6 feet tall and 205 lbs. Boy, until I met you, I didn't know they could stack
crap that high. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I will let you
know when I'm done, Joe. I just got done with the world champion. If you think I want to add a middle-aged comedian just
for the goddamn pleasure of it, you better think again. Dan Silva, three months. You and the bad guy. That was
the best, dude. I got to be honest, Joe. I loved Well, I can't say I loved what
you win because you're the only guy to ever be completely undefeated, but I loved when you win because I just look
forward to the post fight. The post fights were amazing and the way you would troll Anderson Silva. Bro, I I
don't know if Anderson Silva has gotten over this to this day. And if he has, he's a much bigger, stronger man than I
am. I got to tell you, I'm two inches taller now that you guys play that piece for me. I mean, these are the great
memories, right, Daniel? When somebody brings something up from your past, it it makes you feel good. And that really
for me was a special night. They put it in a main event. I had my whole family out there. I remember afterwards my my
father-in-law and my brother-in-law and John Baris went and he got us all these something called a lobster roll and clam
ch. We just had a really great evening and I appreciate you paying a tribute to it. Thank you. Yeah, that was awesome, man. You had a
you had a tremendous career. A lot of great moments. We talked about moments earlier, Chill. You had many of them and that's why we're still talking about
them today, 12 years later. Guys, that's another episode of Good Guy Bad Guy for Chelsea. I'm Daniel Cormier. We will see
you guys on Thursday. [Music]