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On this episode of Good Guy / Bad Guy…It’s 2025 and two of the world’s most dangerous men are beefing via…Google Translate? UFC 320 is almost here and Magomed Ankalaev and Alex Pereira are taking shots at each other, but will it “translate” inside the Octagon? Then, we’re pulling out the BS Meter on whether bantamweight champ Merab Dvalishvili is going to knockout Corey Sandhagen like he claims. Plus, after Carlos Ulberg’s massive first-round TKO over Dominick Reyes, does it really matter who wins when Jiří Procházka and Khalil Rountree Jr. throw down at UFC 320? Should Ulberg get the next shot at the light heavyweight title? And, Gable Steveson is pressing pause on his MMA career to headline Jon Jones' boxing promotion. So, do the Good Guy and Bad Guy think that’s a good or bad move?
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2:42 Ankalaev vs. Pereira beefing
15:24 Merab vs. Sandhagen
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Chill, when you when you fought Brian Stan, who by the way, guys, Chill thought was dead and sent a message to
his phone. Brian, man, I want to apologize. Thought he died with CO talking about 2020.
I had some bad info. Joe sent an apology to Brian's phone. If Brian was dead, he would have never
gotten a message.
What's happening, guys? Welcome to another episode of Good Guy Bad Guy. I'm Chale. He's Daniel. Partner, where
should we begin? I You know what? I want to ask you a question. How much sleep do you get on an average night?
I don't I don't like I've been up since 1:30 this morning. I go to bed at 9:00. I usually wake up like 1:30, 2:00. And
yeah, it's not good. Chill. But but well, what's happening right now is I'm watching this show called The Morning
Show. Dude, chill. I had no idea. I've been watching this thing pop up on my feed for years.
Ignored it. Ignored it. Ignored it. Started it. Fell in love. Binged season one. I'm into season two. And the
pandemic's about to happen. So it's almost like running me back to 2020 when we were all going crazy. It it chill.
It's really really good. And so like I'm up in the middle of night watching the show now. I can't get enough.
Aside from The Office, I I don't think that Steve Carell can pick a good script. Oh my god. Did you see
act real well? the p the scripts that he chooses to work on never in line with what I want to see until this. This is
excellent television. Yeah, it was a he was awesome in that show and show his uh uh I can't stand
Reese Witherspoon. I think she's annoying because like you get a job like that and you act like that, Chill, you
fall backwards into a job like that and you act like that. Get out. You'd be grateful, young lady. You'd be grateful.
A little more appreciation. Yeah, it would go it would go a long way. Look at us. We sit here every Monday and Thursday chill and we are
happy that ESPN decided to pluck us from obscurity wrestling and give us a
platform and you're going to act like that. Come on, dude. Show a little class. You know, there's a season two, by the way. Like once you get done with this,
you just got to reset. There's a more I just finished season two. I'm Hey, there four seasons.
There are four seasons. The newest one just came out. If you haven't watched it yet, shall go watch it. Okay, enough of
that, right? Like we are not here to talk about TV shows even though I think people would like to watch us talk about
TV shows. We're here to talk fighting. And bro, the other day Pereira and
Analia. So it started with a tweet, right? This is always is always the best. It starts with a tweet where
Pereira calls him a coward. Says he hid in the thing. So now the next time Chill, which is obviously going to be
really quick after the first time because they're both at the PI is they will not be able to avoid each other
anymore. So now Pereira is essentially backed ankle into a corner to where the next time he sees Pereira, he's
obligated. He's obligated Chale to make sure that if he's going down the hall and Pereira starts walking, he has to go
towards him. He cannot turn away. Even though, like you said, you and I, and we don't have to fight out here. He has to
go to him. It happens. The next day, Chale, they start to talk through
translators. I mean, I you can't make this up. They're speaking through translators. The Russian translator
goes, "I can't repeat what he's saying because it'll make you two want to fight." So then they start Google
translating insults to each other. So you can't make this up. It was one of the most entertaining things I have seen
in a real long cuz they're standing shouldertoshoulder. Shouldertosh shoulder. Then what happens? I I mean at
that point when one of them when Google tells one of them this nasty thing that was said, do they get upset or do they
just fire back? Do they Whoever said he was going to slap him, he said, "I'm going to hit you." Okay, but then but then but then does
Uncle Goliath need to actually put himself on guard? Yeah. Or this is all in the spirit of fun?
I don't think it wasn't fun. I I mean, it looked it looked like it was going to
get very bad. Here's here's the thing, though. We know there's security at the the PI.
We know there are guys there in the black shirts making sure guys don't fight. Where were they? Why wasn't this
broken up the moment that they started to come together? Maybe because these guys are more professional than me and
Jon Jones, per se. Like they didn't break him up as fast as I would have broken them up.
You know what I did the other day? I'm sorry. I just got a thought. You know what I did the other day, Jeff? Tell me. So, we're at NoJ UFC and John
Silva hit Diego Lopez after the fight. He sure did. He hit him. We're in the octagon and as
they announced Diego Lopez as the winner, John Silva starts going towards him. I tell security, "Get him cuz I
don't know what's about to happen." Joe, I don't want to fight. That's what I would have done at the PI. Somebody should have stepped in. I was afraid of
a 245 pounders. Imagine those two monsters in the middle of the PI in street clothes about to fight. Like what
was going on there? Sure. Well, and that's the part, Daniel, that's the part where I've never really understood this back and forth in the
first place. This all stemmed from the way I understood it that team Pierra is
doing a workout when Uncle shows up to do his workout. When Uncle gets to the door and sees that Pierre is there
first, Uncle hangs out in a side room, waits until they're done. That seems
polite to me. That seems like the right thing to do. But then Uncle Liah's politeness gets called a cowardice. And
now to your point, he is forced to show himself instead of just jockeying the
schedule so they don't run into each other anymore. That part was the is where I kind of got confused. Like they
don't have to go out and be street toughs. They don't even have to be mean to one another. They just have to practice and prepare to beat one
another. I don't think anybody is wrong here. And it's a little bit it's a little bit junior highish to be
prompting back and forth and let's sit down and see what Google says. It's a little weird. But you know, we talked
about this, right? Sometimes you got to get yourself there. So we famously
discussed Jon Jones getting himself there against Stipe. Pereira might need to get himself there. He might need to
find a way to convince himself, I got this dude. or at least the idea that
none of the appeal was taken away. All that shine that he had going into fight
number one that wasn't damaged by losing because of the things that he did inside
of the fight. Chill. And honestly, he might have lost. And when you look at
the scorecards and I don't know like Eric, could you throw the scores in there if you can't find it? I don't imagine it was very close. It might have
been 49 46 couple maybe a 50 45 cuz it felt like if Pereira won he won like
maybe one round pos I don't know possibly two I can't remember the fight as well but it never felt like Uncle was
going to lose the decision. So Pereira might need to still let us know that
nothing changed. I am still me in jail. Even in losing Pereira, his performance
actually um impressed certain people. You being one of them. You said this
after the fight. I thought Pierre fought the best fight I've ever seen him fight. I thought he showed more skills in terms
of getting off the fence, staying up on his feet, shutting uncle down, getting his hips back, staying in control. He
wasn't quite able to find his target. He was trying. He was getting there with the low kicks. He wasn't quite with the hands. The kicking went great. the
boxing part wasn't so great. But as far as showing his skills and showing the world that this narrative that he can only do one thing, that narrative is
dead. Chill, that's a problem, my brother, because if that's the best he's ever looked, he still got beat.
I see it that same way. I I thought that Pierre went out there and despite of outcome, but performance-wise, the big
belief on him was that if he matches up with a better wrestler, somebody can take him down and beyond that, if
somebody gets him down, he's not going to be able to get back up. And that got tested. That got tested very heavily. He
got leaned on the fence a little bit, but he didn't stay down. When he did go down, he scrambled. He got up right away. All of a sudden, Uncle becomes
this willing participant in the let's not take Pier down club, right? It's
just simply not worth it. But I wasn't seeing anything on their feet that was overwhelming uh for Pier either. Pier
looked like a guy that was scared, cautious about the takedown. And the fear of the takedown is more effective
than the takedown. If you can just offer that threat, that's what Uncle did so well. I don't know what changes Pierre
can make, but there was nothing about those first five rounds that makes me think if I see another five rounds, I'm
going to get a different outcome. Well, I'm looking at the scores now, and they went Pereira round one across the board.
Then the two judges had Uncle 234 and then two judges had Pereira four and
five. So 4946 4847 4847 much closer on the scorecards and I
remember the fight being cuz it like you said I felt the same way like no Uncle won this fight. But what I liked about
that fight is that we did see evolution from Pereira. Remember he got taken down
by Israel Adisagna and it was not a good takedown. Like Izzy took him down, Izzy held him down. I don't know if Izzy has
gotten another takedown in his UFC career. So we thought, hey man, if you go wrestle this guy,
but then when we watch on Goliath, he couldn't take him down. He really was trying. So when I see a report that he
goes, I wasn't really trying to take him down. Do you buy it? Like do you buy that he was literally just spam like
giving him the takedown feel, but not necessarily trying to put him down to the floor. There is something to the
idea that you go out and try something, in this case, a takedown, and you don't try it 100%, but you still expected it
to work. So then you take it from, let's say, 80% to 90%. And it wasn't your full
effort, but you still thought it was enough to make it work. And then there's a part of you that goes, "Look, I got
another gear, but I don't want to use it because if I give him 100% and I fail,
it's going to take that belief in myself away." And so there is an interesting thing
where perhaps when Uncle says that, perhaps, yeah, he really didn't try his hardest. But I'm still trying to figure
out where that changes the fight. Pierre had something happen to him that never happened to him before, which is he got pushed backwards. He cut off his lateral
movement. He stopped him from coming forward. The only round that Pier went forward is the first round, by the way,
the one that he won unanimously. So, I think the real key here that Pier learned is I don't have to put him on
the floor. I just got to get him moving that way. If I can put his shoulder and his butt up against the fence, I've done
my part. Hey, isn't that a hard question? And when you get the answer to it, man, if I
just go and try to take him down as hard as I possibly can and it doesn't work,
how difficult it is to level change and go back to that takedown, it's horrible. So, I I get what Uncle Goliath is
saying, but to me, it felt like the takedowns, or at least they expected them to be easier, and they weren't.
Pereira did a good job of defending his legs. Unfortunately, that was the main concern and it just it
stymied him. He didn't do anything offensively because he was so worried about making sure he wasn't getting
taken down. Now, you said he fought as well as he could. So, what does he need
to change or what could he change? What can Alex Pereira change at 39 years old
to flip what we saw in fight number one? Well, first thing, stay off the fence.
Second thing, the the the the the great commonality in Alex Pierre fights from 1
to two, two to three, 3 to four, four to five. In between fights, he does show growth. You brought up Israel out of
Sonia earlier. That was one thing that Izzy did as well is he would show growth. Originally the the blueprint was
to to take him down and then all of a sudden he got taken down, but you can't keep him there. Then all of a sudden he's not getting taken down and if you
if you do get him there, he's reversing positions. And I'm sharing that I do believe that Alex Pierre learns more in
fights than his opponents. I believe that Alex Pierre has a higher IQ than his opponents, including Uncle Lia. And
Alex Pierre played this in a very interesting way. When I watched him training up at the PI and the video came out, I could tell there was a guy that
was really hungry and really good shape. But he's acted to the media as though he didn't even ask for this fight. He
doesn't care if he gets the rematch. He's already had the belt. His body is saying one thing and his mouth is saying
something different. And I'm starting to believe, partner, that this is very important to him. And I like it when he
voices that. I wishes that he would share, but he's not going to go out and take down Uncle Lia. Can he stop the
takedowns? Maybe. If he does, he's still stuck on his feet. And there was nothing from those first five rounds that makes
us believe in a good old pick, sticking match that Pierre can get over on Uncle. I think he's really going to have to
change his strategy. And I think the answer to that strategy belongs in the clinch. Get your hands on him, push him,
pull him, get behind that neck, dirty box a little bit. It's not all about takedowns or striking. There's also an
in between known as the clinch. Yep. I think he has to damage him on the entries because if he's going to get
pushed back like he got pushed back, he needs to be throwing knees. That That's one of the things that um some of the
best strikers do that you might get close, but before you get close, you're
going to take some real damage on the entries. Knees to the body, body kicks. He's got to damage him on the way in if
he wants a real opportunity to win this fight. In most cases, the guy that loses
is a little more motivated. He's a little more excited to try to go and reclaim. There was so many questions
about Pereira going into that first fight. Talking about the stardom, the superstar level. Was he let rest
wrestling on his laurels? It didn't happen for him, right? He didn't win that fight. He could be the more
motivated guy, but he is the older guy. They say usually when we have rematches, the younger guy is the one that gets the
victory, right? because he's got more room to improve. But everything that I've seen from Pereira, everything I've
heard from Pereira tells me that we will see the best version of who Alex Pereira is. And if if you are to be believed, we
saw a great version last time. So, if he's better than that, there's reason to believe he could potentially be the UFC
champion again. But Mega Man on Kolia is not looking to let go of that championship, especially after how long
he had to wait to get an opportunity to even fight for that championship. Man,
this is a this is a big time fight and I love all the stuff that's now on it with the bad blood and and and and people not
liking each other. I love it all. The co-main event has another title fight. Rob Dwalis Willie will fight Corey
Sanhagen. Chill. I sat down with Rob for a long interview and we talked about so
many things. One being the fight, but Rob said, "I'mma be the first person to knock this dude out." Rob said that 90%
of this fight will play out on the feet and he's okay with that. It's time to whip out the BS meter chill. BS or no
BS? Is Morab just going to take this guy down or do you believe that the champ will be willing to stand with Cory
Sanhagen being as dangerous as he is? I would not gain respect for Morab if he goes out and gets a victory over
Sanhagen. He does it all in the standup. I'm going to question Mab. Why in your most important moment, which is a world
title defense, did you not go with your best weapon? Why did you not dance with the one that brought you here? Why did
you switch your style because a couple of kids on an internet forum who you don't even know told you that this is
what we're supposed to do? I mean, Morab has made takedowns cool again. Morab's taken down so many people that people
are keeping track and they're actually thinking it's pretty cool. By the way, when he gets down to the ground, he's very busy. San Hagen said about himself,
I got to take you way back in a time machine to the night that he fought Almaain Sterling. Fight lasted 44
seconds. Aljo got on top, took his back, choked him out, and Cory handed Sandhagen stood up and told the
announcers, "Well, my wrestling sucks." However, between that fight and the
fight that he's going to have with Morab, somewhere along the way, Cory gets matched up with Nurmaga Medov, and
that ends up being a real grappling battle. It ends up being 32 on the rounds, where Sanhagen won two rounds,
and that was a lot closer than anybody thought he was going to go with Umar Nurmagamed, but he did it with his
wrestling. So, whatever tool that he once upon a time had that was very dull, he sharpened it. And it's not as though
Morab's going to just be able to go manhandle him and take him down. At least not in theory. And I think when
Morab sees that, I think when Morab sees somebody that's going to be difficult to take down, it's easier for me, Morab, to
just come out and tell the world, "Well, I wasn't going to try to take him down anyway." Yeah, because then it Yeah,
you're right. You soft Hey, you set up that soft landing. We all We know about that, Joe. Like,
man, honestly, I really didn't want to win that one because if you lose that one, you're like, "Well, see, I told you
a long time ago. It really wasn't that big a deal. I've done that since I was a kid. Everything's going my way."
Oh, yeah. It's fine, man. It's exactly It played out exactly like I thought it would. Um, Cory Sanhagen has improved
his wrestling. The question becomes, has he improved his wrestling to the point
that he could successfully defend Morab Dwales Willie over 25 minutes? That's
the issue. That's where people struggle. And honestly,
you of all people should understand that because I have watched you countless
times hit people with takedowns so many times that eventually they start to
break and they start to wilt. Chill, when you when you fought Brian Stan, who by the way guys, Chill thought was dead
and sent a message to his phone. Brian, man, I want to apologize. He thought he
died from COVID talking about 2020. I had some bad info. Joe sent an apology to Brian's phone. If
Brian was dead, he would have never gotten the message. Joe, at least I guess you thought his wife would see it and go, "Man, that jail son is a great
guy." But Jill, the first takedown against Brian Stan was very difficult. You might have got it, but it was
difficult. Then the second time was still relatively difficult. By the third time when you hit them chill and instead
of going to their knees to get back up they roll to their back and they take half guard you go now I got him. That is
the game when you're a wrestler and we've seen that with Morab. We've seen it time and time again where with Shawn
Ali right in fight number two Shawn was fighting those takedowns early but by the third round he kind of accepted that
they were going to spend some time on their back. He got choked out. Can Cor Corey Sanhagen defend effectively in
round one, two, three, and then as we get to round four and five? Because that
is where Morab becomes a real problem. Bro, even Umar, who was beating Morab in
the first two rounds, his striking was too sharp. He was too crisp. In round three, four, and five, Morab's like
laughing, joking, playing. He's not exhausted, and he keeps spamming takedowns after takedown after takedown.
And even if he's not taking you down, he's hitting you at the hips, making you defend. Cory will defend. Can he do it
for 25 minutes, though, Chill? And that's the question. Even Umar was able to get Cory down, but Cory wouldn't stay
there. He would spin that into a scramble. He would faint a submission, right? He he would throw up a triangle
that he wasn't looking for. He was looking to just get access to the armpit to push him away to get back onto his
feet. And that is what made Umar decide, I don't know if the squeeze is worth the juice. It's like a as a takedown artist,
you get on top of the guy, you need a couple of beats where you can just breathe. Yep. Almost like the video game where that
character's regaining his power. You just need a couple of beats. And the one thing that that Sandhagen did so well
and started to really frustrate Nurmagamedov is when he hit the mat, he didn't stay there. He didn't start
playing a guard game. He started playing an escape and a re reversal game. If he
can do that with Morab, it's going to force Morab to do some things a little bit different. Morab isn't used to
pinning guys down. He's used to posturing and pounding, posturing and pounding. But he's But now you got the
third P, which is the pin. He's going to have to pin, posture, pound. And it changes things and it does equal for an
exhaustion. And Sandhagen isn't the hardest guy in the world to put on his back, but he's very difficult to do
damage to once you get him there. He's not afraid to fight from those positions and make you really earn it.
And he's long. He's like a long guy for the weight class. So his legs are long. He's kicking. He's creating space
distance. Cory Sanhagen is a real problem for just about anybody. But chill, I watch Morab laugh while
submitting Demetrius Johnson. We know how good Demetrius Johnson is. Chill. I
get it. It's practice and I know everything that happens in the restroom, stays in the restroom. D. But bro,
Demetrius Johnson is as good and talented a mixed martial artist as
anyone I've come across. Demetrius Johnson is also in that room with no
there's no pressure to be better. You can operate freely in practice,
especially when you're retired and you're just a guy getting content. He's out there doing his thing, training hard
and Morab submits him. How impressed were you by that? Like seeing Morab submit DJ? Because honestly, I don't
know if anybody's just better than Demetrius Johnson. It was very legitimate. I mean, they were not playing around and and DJ
wasn't like trying to build up his confidence or trying to get a good shot for the camera that they could put on Instagram. It was very real and
Demetrius got very surprised. One thing about Morov is he is so muscle bound, we
automatically assume that he's not going to have the flexibility of some skinnier guys. He got both. He got the best deal
out there. He got the strength and the flexibility. So, when it comes to the world of submission, man, I think that he sells himself short every now and
then. I know in a a cage fight he greatly favors a rear naked choke, but there's a number of other things that
Morab can do. And there's a number of things that is well as Cory Sanhagen thinks he's got all the answers. Morab's
the kind of guy that can go out and change the questions overnight. And I do feel when I was watching him sparring
with Demetrius Johnson, that that was a different and more refined version of Barab than I'd ever seen. It it's it
really is chaos, but it's controlled chaos. is not nearly as uh wild as
people think. But to that point though, Chill, San Hagen said that he does have the answers. He goes, "I'm more
well-rounded than anyone he's ever fought." So he's talking Ali, Umar,
Sakuro, Pioran, and Aldo. The fact that these guys are all on Rob's resume is
insane. Obviously, he's like a Hall of Famer before he ever even got the belt. But
you believe Cory when he says that he goes he's more well-rounded than all these guys.
I think that I think that he's shining himself up just a little bit. Look, I got to take Cory at his word. And as
good as his performances have been, I heard him say, "My wrestling sucks." So,
I know that was four years ago, but it's what he said. And then he never did anything to rectify that. He didn't move
into with a a college team. He didn't do a camp out at the Olympic Training Center. In MMA, it doesn't seem that his
wrestling sucks anymore. In fact, he's even using it offensively. But I have to take a guy at his word. So, if he is
telling me that he's got holes in his game, I'm forced to believe him. I know there's gamesmanship, and I know there's
reasons you would say something to get the opponent looking in a different direction, but as far as the most
well-rounded 135 pounder, look, it's almost too big of a compliment. Whoever the most well-rounded 135 pounder is is
likely the greatest of all time. Yeah, chill. That's crazy. You're right.
You're right. I I believe San Hagen's really, really good. And I think that he's going to be a real challenge from a
Robin. Man, when I look at that list of guys, those are some studs. So, it's hard to really differentiate between
them because some are really good at one thing, two things. And I mean, hell, Umar was able to beat him because he was
able to not only take him down, they couldn't hold him down, he was able to strike with him. Cory was able to beat
uh other guys because of the same thing. I just think they're all very evenly matched and chill. If I'm to say one
guy's most well-rounded, I'm probably going to just put that on the champ because his morale, he's shown an ability to strike with him enough and
and obviously his wrestling and cardio is next level. Khil Roundree Jr. fights
Yuri Prohaska in the third fight from the top. Khalil Roundtree Jr. is a very
interesting case, right? He's a very nice guy. He he he fights hard, big power, showed tremendous heart against
Alex Pereira. You heard Brohoska was the champion, has knocked out just about everybody he has fought. But when you
look at these two and the way that they fight, the the the brutal style, who is more dangerous? Is it Roundtree or is it
uh Yuri Prosa? Well, this is the fight just to start with. I mean, this is the fight. I don't
know if we've had a feature match that has as many questions and whatifs as as this one does. Who I want to answer your
question cuz boy, that's that's compelling. Um like I I think of it from this perspective. If my son has to get
in there and fight one of those guys, which guy would I rather it be? Which would of course the guy with the less
tools and less likely to hurt him? Prohaskca has a very special thing about
him and he's just as dangerous with his elbow as he is with his knee as he is with his kick as he is with his fist.
Round tree is a little more right in front of you. He's explosive. He's an incredible athlete. He's going to use
Mui Thai and only wrestle defensively. I think that I like Prohaskca in that
fight, but I will tell you there is a lot on it. Whoever comes out of that match is going to have a great big
shining star behind them. Whoever comes out of that match is going to go into the war room and be in consideration for
a world title fight. Of course, how the main event this evening plays out is is going to factor into that. But I like it
a lot. I like Round Tree versus Prohaska. Prohaskca's got to watch himself. He keeps his chin up and his
hands down a little bit too often. He cannot afford not one shot from Roundtree at full speed. But I think
that I like Yuri's uh chances in that the most. It's a great fight. Um, Yuri Prohaska is
a tremendous fighter. I'm gonna chat with him later in the week. I talked to Khil Roundree that goes live today. But
cho, these guys are both insanely dangerous. Khil Roundree and his power
and his explosiveness is next level. Europaska does leave his chin up, especially when he's in range. When he's
in range, he's far too comfortable. But dude, it's almost like he's got like this blunt force to his strikes. Even
when they're coming from weird angles, when he hits people, it's so bad. Now, Jamal Hill has been on the wrong ending
of both of these guys recently. When you look at him, who got it? Who gave it to him worse? It's Yuri Prohaskca, right?
Khil controlled him. Khil beat him over 25 minutes, but Prohaskca ended up finishing him in less than 15 minutes.
But that's what Yuri does. But when we look at the light heavyweight picture, the worst thing for Yuri Prohaskca is
for Alex Ferrer to win that belt this Saturday because he's already beaten them twice and they weren't necessarily
close fights. He got knocked out twice. Khil Roundry got beat by Alex Pereira. But if the champion is still on Goliath,
obviously he has a claim. But I don't even know that it matters. As much as we put on this fight and as much as
it would seem to matter. They both will have won two fights in a row. Uh I think yeah, two fights in a row. Carlos
Goldberg has been on an absolute tear. He's number three in the world. He just knocked out Dominic Reyes in the first
round. So, I mean, am I right, Jill? Does it even matter who wins this fight
this week, or is Bberg just the next guy right now? Well, and that's the thing. When I when I mentioned that the winner of of Khalil
uh and Yuri goes into the war room, their name's going to be met with some other names, and one of those is going
to be. And yeah, after what Bberg just did, not to mention against a former
title challenger, I think that it greatly uh is meaningful. And when you talk about parody, and that's the one
problem that some of these fights don't have is parody. Oldberg, that's fresh meat for either one of them. That's a
brand new story being represented by a brand new continent and a brand new geographical location. I think Bberg's
in the driver's seat right now, but I do think there's a lot on it. I I I think the backup fighter is a coveted spot,
and I think being next in line is a coveted spot. And it's not as though you're going to have uh Round Tree
versus Prohaska and it means nothing. What does it mean? That's still going to be revealed to us.
Yeah, that's up in the air. But if if Yuri wins and Analia wins, fresh match now, I could see Yuri may be sliding in
there because of his name value. Uh but boy, if Pereira becomes a champ, Carlos Bberg, Carlos Bberg should almost be
walking Alex Pereira out to the octagon because if he wins, he's definitely going to be next. All right, I got a hot
topic for you. Gable Stevenson allin. Now we have seen the champ Olympic
wrestle, WWE wrestle, NCAA wrestle, Buffalo Bills football, now mixed
martial arts, right? He is a man of many trades. Can do it all. But now he's boxing, jail, now he's boxing. Made his
ear debut earlier this month, but he is now going to be fighting and headlining
Jon Jones's boxing promotion, Dirty Boxing. You buy it. You buy Gable the
boxer. I buy that he's going to do it. And I also buy that. That would take a lot of courage to take a young man that wants
to go into unarmed combat and then take his greatest tool away. I can't think of anybody over time that would have agreed
to do something like that, let alone is actually going to step in there. I mean, it really nullifies it. Before you talk
about his opponent or the experience of the opponent, if I can just stop right there, Gable has no experience. He's got
no wins, no losses, no draw. He's clearly a better athlete. He's clearly a better specimen, but he's also agreeing
to leave a life lifeline of hard work and dedication in the back. There's
something about that that is honorable. Now, I read that rule set and I must tell you, I got a little get confused.
By example, Daniel, they allow ground and pound. They word it that we allow limited ground and pound, but limited
still means that it exists. So, it's not completely a bare knuckle fight, but it's pretty close, too. And it's got my
interest and I think it shows a lot of courage by Young Gable. I think I think the ground and pound you have to be like standing or something.
You can't like go into the guard and like use ground and pound. I think once they go down you can stand over them and
hit them. But I'm not absolut I'm not exactly sure. But yes, I love it. Um
he's fighting a guy named Billy Swanson on October 30th because yes, Chill, it's very brave because when he made his MMA
debut, Chill, he looked amazing. He won the fight in the first round. But guess
what he did the moment they came together? He threw him to the ground because that's what he does, right?
That's what we all do, especially when we're early in our career. But I believe that by stepping outside
of his comfort zone, it's going to make him a more well-rounded
uh mixed martial artist because he's going to go and do something that is so unfamiliar to him that he's going to
have a different set of nerves. He's going to have to deal with those nerves. And I think if he can get through this
and continues down this path, we've always agreed that we thought Gable Stevenson can be very special in mixed
martial arts and now he's got Jon Jones by his side uh as his head coach. I think it's going to be a
big journey for Gable Stevenson. Hopefully this is the thing that sticks and he uh he stays with it. Ch. We are
not doing a show on Thursday. Boo. Because guess what? We're doing a show
from Powers Slap on Friday, ESPN 2 and YouTube. Chill and I will be at Powers
Slap. Dude, last time I was at Powers Slap Chill, I went New Orleans, you guys were doing a show there. It was one of
the in most insane environments I have ever seen. It was awesome. I didn't know
if I could be in on Power Slash. I'm in, Chill. I'm in. And now we're doing good guy, Bad Guy from there. What you think?
I had it the same way. I I was a little bit reluctant once I saw it in person. Once I saw the production, felt the
energy. I could see the athletes and I could see the the seriousness of the event. I could see their desire to win.
It changed everything. I love it. Absolutely crazy. Boy, New Orleans, like the kids say, it it was a vibe. It It
was a vibe in New Orleans. Yo, I don't know. Like, I never thought I would sound so uncool saying things. I hear
all my high school kids saying every day and they actually make it sound cool. I think I'm going to stop doing that. For
chill sunning, I'm Daniel Cormier. We will see you guys Friday from Las Vegas at Power Slash.
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