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On today's episode of Good Guy/Bad Guy, Daniel Cormier and Chael Sonnen recap an exciting UFC 320 that saw Alex Pereira regain his light heavyweight title in emphatic fashion. What did Poaton's performance this past weekend tell us about the first encounter between he and Ankalaev back in March? With Pereira reigning atop the LHW division once again, will it be Jiri Prochazka or Carlos Ulberg next for him, or will it be the G.O.A.T Jon Jones? Chael P thinks it will be Jones, but not at the weight many people would expect. Also, at UFC 320, Merab Dvalishvili defeated Cory Sandhagen in dominant fashion to stay bantamweight champion. What is it going to take for someone to defeat "The Machine?" And, seven years ago today, arguably the most anticipated fight in UFC history took place between Khabib Nurmagomedov and Conor McGregor, so what do the guys remember about that historic night?
0:00 Welcome!
2:29 Pereira def Ankalaev
12:56 What’s next for Pereira
22:04 Dvalishvil def Sandhagen
25:50 Merab greatest bantamweight of all time
27:44 What will it take to def Merab
29:42 Is fourth title defense in works for Merab?
33:01 This week in MMA history: Khabib vs. McGregor
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Oh, hey. Hello, Pippy. They got love.
He's so sweet. Yeah, she is so sweet life, guys. She's so sweet. But she's
just greedy, man. Oh, she's so greedy.
What's happening, guys? Welcome to another episode of Good Guy, Bad Guy. I'm Chale. He's Daniel. partner, if I
may begin. My daughter is a legend, at least for the moment. So, I was out of
town in Las Vegas with you last week. Some boy had a stick. It was recess and he was kind of messing with the stick.
One got away from him. They, as I'm told, they were all just playing, but one got away from him and he bonked a girl with the stick. My daughter
responded with a right cross. The kids on the playground though have given her credit like nobody gets in
trouble. She just has become a hero. So, the teachers call home. it turns into a whole thing. But she could not wait to
get to school today because apparently so many people are building her up currently. I got to tell you, I'm a
little stuck on how to respond. But that's what's going on at the side. And she's got street cred now. She runs
West Lynn Elementary. And let me tell you something, there's nothing better than when you're like in like that age
group of school and everybody respects you. It's the absolute best. And what a
savage. And it'll stick around. You can carry that for a couple of years, right?
Chill. You know what's funny? It's like, did the teacher say anything to the
effect of I know she comes from a family of fighting or any of that stuff?
Did they Did they Oh, yes. I'm sorry. At other times, yes.
We We had to go in one time because my son wrote a paper telling the teacher that his father is a bad guy and the
teacher tried to keep him after and go, "No, he's not a bad guy. Let's talk about this." And so we we kind of had to have this experience like, "Oh, oh, he's
the bad guy." Yeah. Yeah. They they they say, "I know he comes from a family where it he's he's
it's fighting." So, we're worrying like, "No, let her kick that boy's butt because he hit her with the stick."
Great job, Bria. Great job. You're a legend now in West Lynn and you deserve
every bit of it. Chill. You want to know another legend? Chama. Alex Pada. I mean, this dude Alex
Peda is crazy. The chair, the way he went at him, how could the first fight
be so different from the second fight? I know all the things he said before and
you almost take that in with going like, sure, excuse after excuse after
excuse, but the guy said he was hurt. He said he was not at his himself. And after what happened last Saturday, it's
hard not to believe him. I will set this up as plainly as I know
how to speak. This was the most underwhelming title fight of 205 pounds in a couple of years. The town was just
not talking about it. Coming out the backside, they're not going to have a merchandise or a live gate or a
pay-per-view record. They're just not. It was a necessary fight and every now and then you have those. Daniel coming
out the back end. I have never been in a building that gave that kind of a
reception. I could feel it myself. This was not only congratulations, I didn't know you could do that. Congratulations
underdog. Congratulations young man, you're a world champion. It was inspiring. The older athlete, you tell
me one time and feel free to bring in the Lakers, bring in the 49ers, do any sport any way you want to do it. When
five months removed with nothing to point to in between there except a little focus in training camp, you have
ever seen a script flipped to this extreme. Not to mention it got flipped
to the older guy. I don't know that they're going to give Pierre credit for that takedown. Like there's something that happens to get an MMA takedown. In
every version of wrestling there is, one guy's down on his back, the other guy's on the top of him. If I told you Alex
Pierre was going to take down and ground a pound Uncle, and by the way, he's going to do it inside of two minutes. You would have bet the house against me
that I was wrong. You would have bet anything to say he would not end up on top. But I mean, Uncle shoots defensively. The way
Pereira went out to start the fight, it was almost like he heard everything
everybody said in between. How when everybody was speaking of how he spent
too much time backing up, he looked like he was a counter striker. His back was spent too much time against the octagon
side. It's like he had taken all of that in the time away and went straight forward and said, "I'm not going to take
one step back. Let's see how you respond to that." I think for me that was going
to be the difference in the fight if Pereira was going to find success. What I did not believe though was that he was
going to do it so early. I mean, the moment the fight started, he charged
across the octagon side. And Joe, I think that uncle might have had a false sense of what he was facing because of
what he faced the first time. Every time he got hit by Pereira the first fight, Alex was backing up. So even though he
was getting hit, he wasn't taking the full power. And I think that the Pereira is such a big guy that when he's on the
attack, his presence is as daunting as anything. The power, the striking,
everything. He's a huge guy. So his presence can be an issue and it felt
like outside of the power fell victim to the presence because the moment Pereira
did this he did this and that was exact difference between fight one and fight
two. It was him going forward this time Pereira went bam he went bam got stuck across the octagon side right hand drops
him he tries to dive at the leg. Yo, chill. That was the first time I sat and
I went, I don't know that I like 12 to six elbows. Those were nasty, bro.
Brutal elbows from the top. Bam. Bam. It was That was That was anger.
And you have a defense. This is your simple defense. You bring both arms and you try to put them together. That elbow
cuts right through that. That little tiny gap right there that no boxing glove and no MMA glove can get through.
that elbow will bust right through. You know, it's that elbows that you guys use when they're breaking boards and
breaking concrete and in martial arts videos online, but that's what what Pierre was delivering him. I was a
little surprised that Uncle didn't offer more of a scramble on the bottom. I thought his defense was okay. I was
waiting for him to sit up into like an underhook Daniel and get something going. Dominic, oh, you have a point,
please. That Uncle was having some rib injury, ri issues going into the fight. Right.
That's what I've heard. And maybe that's why he didn't sit back into him. But I mean, even if he wasn't having issues,
you can't sit back up into those elbows, you're going to be hurt. I just wanted to say that because we like to have full
transparency, right? We hear this, we hear this, we hear this. I heard that he's had he had some rib issues and so
sitting up into might not have been an option, but I got to be I think he was just hurt so bad, Jill, that he couldn't
do it. So, continue your point. Sure. And that's what Dominic Cruz said. Dominic Cruz said, "Chale, I think you
missed it." He said, "When they fell, when they got into that position, Pierre on the feet had first landed a big right
hand." So, we wipe the tape. We round the tape backwards and sure enough, there's a big right hand that leads to
that takedown attempt to the sitting down to the ultimately uh, you know, turtle up position that Uncle was in.
And I think that that right hand, at least for me, it's not getting enough credit. I think that maybe some people missed it. I just wanted to offer it for
the smarts who watch this program. him. You could see immediately his face, his whole facial expression change. And
anytime a guy kind of puts his head down and dives, Joe, you and I both know as guys that that that in this trade, we
applied wrestling as our first line of offense, defense, and everything. When we're shooting and our heads down,
it ain't going good. It's not going good if we're not trying to time a takedown. So when Uncle Goliath dove
Adam in that way, I I knew it was was over. It was uh it was such a brutal way
to win that fight. And then he said it just and with all the bad blood and
there's be no there will be no trauma and all the trash talk he's standing over him doing that weird little thing again. And Uncle, you look at Uncleiah's
face, you almost feel bad for him because you're like, "My god, man. That turned out as bad as it possibly could
because he completely got wiped out." And you know how hard that is because Uncle doesn't lose. He's so good that he
doesn't lose. So for Barrera to do that to him in that way, bro, his his legend
just continues to grow. And there was a toughness being called into question when Uncle stayed there.
And one thing Uncle doesn't lose. He doesn't get out toughed. He'll stay out there all night. He'll go through these
training camps. He'll run up mountains without even eating for two days. I mean, the guy is dog tough. But he did get forced with a question, do I want to
continue or not? He elected not to. Let me tell you how dominant this was just from a a little bit different perspective. This was so dominant that
in the history of sport, very clearly, whether we do it or not, but very clearly we begin the conversation of
trilogy match. They're one a piece. We got to go to number three. Not only are we not having that conversation, we're
looking at Prohaska who is 0 and2. We're not looking at a guy that got a win over
Pierre, we're looking to a guy that's never beaten Pier as the better of the two options. And I'm only speaking to
that because what does Uncle have to do? What would he have to do? He's got to come back through and he's got to win a couple of more matches against who? All
guys that he's already beat or all guys that Pierre's already beat. It's a colossally weird situation, which is
where the idea of Jon Jones is such a sweet piece of parody that nobody saw
coming. We will talk about that in a little bit. I don't want to get ahead of us, but Pereira has now won that belt twice. Ch
immediate rematch. Um Izzy knocked him out in the immediate rematch. I think
once he when he beat Izzy. Um, I asked Plennio Cruz, I go, "What does it say
about Alex to be able to have seven months to prepare?" Because remember,
Chill, when he lost, he had been fighting and fighting and fighting and
fighting. Every time someone needed a main event, they called Pereira. This time, he was out for seven months, had
time to recover all the little injuries and really focus. Because John Wood said last week, he goes, "Man, before that
first fight," he goes, "I travel the world with fighters." He goes, "Whether it's in Bellator, PFL, UFC, small
shows." He goes, "If I no matter where I was, Alex was there." He said, "Every
guest fighter appearance, Alex was there." He goes, "And even if you think you're training in every hotel room
around the world, you're not at home getting prepared for the fight." This time, he did two and a half months
straight in Danbury. What does it say about Alex and his ability to prepare when he actually has time to prepare for
a fight? Belief. Belief is one of these buzzwords
people throw out with motivation and confidence and hard work. But belief is very real if you really believe it. Like
I I watched Alex Pier. I saw him in those hotels and I saw that when he traveled around, which was a little too
much travel, but he did have his coach with him. He did have his training. He did do two workouts a day. He wasn't
skipping him skipping him. He was eating right, but he didn't believe it. He knew I got to be buckled down. I got to say
no. The the the number one thing that you will know in life if you're focused. Are you saying the word no a lot? If
you're saying no, if you're saying no to these invites, if you're saying no to these trips and opportunities, that's
what focus is. And that's really what Pier did. And whether physically he threw more punches in the gym, whether
physically he sparred more, got more jump rope or got more miles on the track
isn't overly the point. He believed it. He believed I now paid the price. He
believed I said no and I sacrificed. And it was that belief that really came through in my
absolutely the truth because you remember we were doing other shows together. It'll be like a month or two where I wasn't working if we were
fighting because you were saying no, I can't do that. I can't be at work. I've got to focus on what I want to focus on.
Chill. After the fight, Pereira first off gives a moment of silence for Jon
Jones's brother, which was unbelievable that he did that in that moment, right? But then he goes to the press fight,
postfight presser, and when they were asking him about the future, right, he brought up Jones. He said aspenol,
serial gun, eh eh almost like deflected that and said I want to fight Jon Jones.
I mean does this make it more likely that we will see Jon Jones back in the
octagon especially if it's against Pereira. I predicted for you Daniel. I told you
all week and people were kind of looking down on me. I said I don't think we see Jon Jones return against Aspenol. I
think we see Jon Jones return against Pier. And I said, and I don't think it matters if Pierro wins or loses. He
becomes a heavyweight. And that match is so special for so many reasons. You and I understand to a little bit of a higher
level. What makes Jon Jones tick? And Jon Jones is not just a guy that loves the sport and he's going to show up and
do it. He needs some certain reasons, but Alex provides those. By the way, there was one little piece of push back
when you and I spoke to Dana on Friday night and we asked him this question and Dana was just saying, "Look, size matters. As great as Pierre is, he used
to be a middleweight. Have you seen Tom Aspenol? Do you know the absolute size
of that man? But now that we're not talking about Tom Aspenol, now that we're talking about Jones, who Pierra
probably weigh a couple pounds more, let me give you the hot take of the day. If I'm in Jon Jones's shoes and I hear this
and I feel this buzz and there's this huge fight and it has all of a sudden got my interest, but there's no title on the line, I can fix that real fast. I
can say I will fight you and I'll even find a world title cuz it's going to be yours. I'll see you at 205 lbs. And if
Jon Jones does that, my partner, we're having a very different conversation. Oh, chill. I never Oh my god. I didn't
even think about that. Now you can let heavyweight because here's the problem with him saying not no to those guys at
heavyweight. It's a super fight, but what's it for? When you get those great names like him
and Jones, you want it to be for something. So, yes, 205 pound fight
between him and Jon Jones would be amazing. And it gets rid of the idea that Jones is afraid of Tom Aspenol,
right? Because now he's back at 205 where he's always been and he's fighting the champion there. That makes all the
sense in the world. But to have the two of the biggest stars in the UFC fighting at heavyweight when the heavyweight
title fight is being contested between two other guys, the champion and the number two contender, it just doesn't
make much sense. But to have those guys fight at 205, absolutely. I don't think
the title of baddest man on the planet needs to be officially on the line as the heavyweight championship because I
believe a strong number of people in the world or at least
people that watch that are more casual fans will believe that they're seeing the two baddest men on the planet
because they're two well best well-known big men in the world. And that's what
ultimately will sell, right? Jones versus as uh Jones versus Pier Pereira,
the names, the champion, the champion. Doesn't matter the weight class, but
2054 the belt makes it even better. But J, what if it's not Jon Jones?
Berg and Yuri both almost seem they both
almost seem to be trying to tell Pereira to go up to heavyweight. have never heard I have never in my life seen
anything like this dude outside of Izzy outside of when Izzy literally forced
Pereira up to 205 when they said well you guys are one and one you going to do a trilogy he goes I'm hearing he wants
to go to 205 where did Izzy hear this before anyone else and then Pereira bought it and went to 205 now it seems
like Yuri first off I love Yuri because Yuri is so crazy man I don't know what
Yuri was talking about with Megan He told Megan, "I don't know if you believe me, but I will find a way." After he had
almost explained why they shouldn't fight a third time. It was crazy. And
then Carlos Alberg goes up there and tells him, "I hear he's going to heavyweight. What is happening? Who
wants to fight in jail? Who's it going to be if it's not Jon Jones?"
Well, let's start at the beginning. Apparently, it is not going to be Uncle Live. Let's just remove that. There was a lot of cameras and attention put on
Yuri, which is generally, if you're doing your detective work in MMA, there's some pretty good forecasting there. I don't want to be hard on Yuri,
but I think he can handle it. He just had a tremendous victory, but the truth on victory is not or on Yuri is not only is he 0 and2 against Pierre, both
finishes. He's 0 and2 in the rounds that he completed on Saturday night. He won a
fight without winning a single round. To grab him and then make believe we can repackage him against the, you know,
arguably this greatest have ever done it. I think it's a surprise. And I think that opens the door to Oldberg. But I
listened to Old Berg's interview, who by the way starts by saying, "I'll fight anybody. I've always been willing to
fight anybody, whoever the UFC wants." And then he tries to narrow that and put it on uh Pier and it's like, "Well, you
gave me a little bit of a mixed signal. You just said anybody and it doesn't matter and you're not afraid." And then you try to narrow it down to one guy. I
think those guys do have inside scoop and I think they're getting it from Pier. I think that Pier has put the word out. I want to be a heavyweight. Dana
historically does not love the idea of letting a champion leave a division. But with that said, he's made two exceptions
just in this calendar year. He made it with Ily, he made it with Islam that's coming up. Pier is a little different,
man. He's done everything. And now he's done everything twice. I think if he wants to pick a move, it is wise of the
boss to say, "Look, Tom Aspenol is a big animal." But right now, right here on
Good Guy, Bad Guy, we're not discussing Tom Aspenol. We're discussing the GOAT.
And there is no reason to ever act as though there's a fight too big that doesn't make sense for Jon Jones. That
young man qualifies for any idea anybody's ever had. Yo, Pip is going crazy right by my feet. I have never
seen a dog eat more stuff. Like, she is a dumpster, bro. She's eating like I don't know what she's doing. Like, I
don't know if she can find any stuff on the floor. She's like, Oh, is it food or product? Like, is she
eating a sock? And then I just took like a piece of plastic. I'm like, where are you getting
this plastic from, Pip? Like, she just she literally just walks the floor, bro. And she just kind of Hey, hey, watch.
Watch. Hold on.
Pip is very cute though. I'd have a hard time telling Pip. Oh, hello Pip. Oh, hey Pip. Hello, Pip.
Love it. She's so sweet. Yeah, she is so sweet. God, she's so
sweet. But she's just greedy, man. Um, she's so greedy. All right, back back to
what we were saying. Somebody's got to fight the champ, one of these guys are going to have to step up. And I I truly
believe that when Pereira won the belt back, it needs to be. And look, has a
whole bunch of different skills. He's so athletic. He's so fast. He's so gifted that he could get the job done. He
could. And we've seen Pereira hurt before. Problem is, when you start putting him in there with more strikers,
you wonder if the best strikers in the world couldn't get him in kickboxing,
are they going to be able to get him in MMA? Right? Like, and Bberg's younger, he's faster, he's big and tall, he's got
great power. So, he has the ability to do it. It's just hard, man. People for
the world to probably believe that they're going to see a guy uh beat uh
the champion, especially when it isn't Israel at Asana, right? The one that the one people felt were going to beat him
was Izzy because it just felt like Izzy had the skill set. Uh they won't buy that a newer guy is going to be able to
do it, but we'll see. I think it has to be Oberg, though. And Daniel. Daniel. Daniel, one thing
that we don't often discuss a lot because it can it can turn people off, but as you go, Yeah. Well, what else are you going to
do? What What better option do you have? Well, let me just answer that. Oldberg versus Prohaska. Nobody's pushing back
on that idea. Oldberg versus Prohaska for the true number one contendership. I mean, there's something that's very
fascinating about that match. There's something that doesn't need a cell where you would kind of go back and forth and
wonder within your mind who's going to win. I think that that is very likely as well. I think maybe we're looking at the
two wrong guys for a world title. Maybe we found the two right guys, but let's bring them together first. Right? Because Pereira I think Pereira broke
his foot in that fight. So, he might be gone for a while uh before he's able to
defend his championship again. Hey, what about Pereira and I with those jokes we were doing on each other? That was so crazy. Yo, whenever he did it to me and
then he goes chama, that's just dirty, man. He He can't say Chama right now.
That's nasty work, Pereira. That is nasty. But congratulations, champ, on winning the belt again. Hey, in the
co-main event, the belt stays in Las Vegas. My boy, our American champion.
You know, me and Morab got into this big argument last week about him being American. And uh he's now our American
champion. I told him his American name is Morab Smith. Well, Morab, I said, "You want to be American?" Name is Morab
Smith. So Morab goes out there and fights Cory San Shanhagen who by the way
cha fought a wonderful fight was very well prepared defended takedowns or if
he got taken down got right back up was confident was in great shape but Rob still dominates. What is there left to
say about Mor Dualis will? And let me start with Cory as well
because I have never had more praise for an athlete that lost every minute of every round and still looked really good
doing it. Like Cory had a way out in the round number two. They scored at 108. He had a way out if he wanted to stay there
and just sit still a little bit more. When that door opened to flick it, he never took it. His wrestling not as good
as Moravs. His ability to get up off the bottom. I thought it was pretty impressive. Didn't use a lot of guard
work. Kind of used more of a collegiate standup. Went to his knees, found his feet, got to the fence, turned around and face him. I mean, Cory did
everything right, which forced a better version of Morab. Like you really do need to understand how well Sandhagen
fight to be able to give Morab the correct compliment for winning all five rounds. One of them 108 mate. My
goodness. And he did it everywhere. Morab told us a week ago and you and I of course dismissed him as you know a
fighter trying to throw you off his strategy but he said I'm going to outstrike Sandhagen. I promise you I'm
going to outrike Sanhagen. I know you think I'm just saying it but I'm going to do it. He did it. And yes, his
wrestling was on point. And yes, his mat returns and ground and pound was there. He out struck Sandagen. And they spent a
good eight or nine minutes of that fight on their feet punching and kicking, but it was Morab with the combinations. It
was Morab cutting the angles. It was Morab with the punches and punches. It was Morab with the more devastating
punches while in the standing position. Takeowns. He scored 20 takedowns. When Kabib got
22 takedowns, by the way, Matt returns aren't takedowns, but if that's what we're calling him, jail, he did that 20
times. And when Khabib got 22, I was like, that'll never be broken. It'll
never Nobody will ever come close. Morab got 20 takedowns in that fight, man. He shot 38 times. It's the the amount of
attempts that he is taking in a fight is so ridiculous. I don't think people even
understand chill how hard it is to do that. When they would watch us and go, "Oh man, well, your style was fun
though, DC. You would wrestle, but it was different wrestling." I go, "Because I didn't have to do it much." I go, I
was getting a takedown and guys are spending time on the ground. He's doing that when they're getting up and he's
constantly putting himself back in position to take these guys down. It is
so exhausting. I kind of thought when I was talking to Corey last week, I said,
Cory said he gets tired just like everybody else. He just does a better job of hiding it. I don't know that I
believe that anymore after watching what I watch. I don't think he gets tired because Rogan said when he watches him,
he goes he watches the belly, right? You know when you run or when you grapple or you wrestle, you're like heavy breathing
and your stomach's like in and out and in and out. But Robs isn't doing that. And when I watch it in between rounds,
I'm like, well, he's not tired. He's in the shape that is advertised. I know it
sounds impossible, but it is. And I believe without a shadow of a doubt, look man, all credit to the greats,
Dominic Cruz being the one that I believe was the greatest bantamweight of all time by far. When you combine
everything he did in the WC and everything he did in the UFC, there is no doubt in my mind that Marab Dwalis
Willie is the greatest bantamweight that has ever fought in the UFC channel. And I don't know, you know the the the
history of the game a little better than me, but from from my eyes, I've never seen anybody better in this weight
class. That weight uh the the pacing, the way
he has made a weapon out of pace. Randy Couture was the first to do it in our sport. That was kind of the the Dan
Gable idea, but Randy brought it to MMA. Pass that torch to St. Pierre, who passed that torch to Khabib, and now
you've got Morab. I mean, I'm mentioning the absolute most elites in 30 plus years of watching this, but they can
just do more than you can. They can just throw more than you than you can. Fighting ultimately is a dance in that
one person leads at a time. Both guys can't be leading. One guy's got to be protecting. Then he comes on his offense
and you you you you pass this back and forth, which you have to do unspokenly because nobody has the cardio to go 25
minutes in that direction until now. M Robb does do that. I heard Joe's analysis of it. I can't challenge him. I
think Coach Cal and an aerodyine with a couple of bands might be the only way that you and I find out what Rob's
actual limit is because there's not something within MMA that's going to get him to his breaking point.
I swear to God, I would love to see how hard he would have to try to push Morab
to and I don't want Morab to go when he's out of camp. I want Morab when it's like a week or two before the fight
where he's in phenomenal shape to see his max to see his limit of his push
because I don't know that anybody has ever pushed in that garage like I think he would in order to uh uh
whatever that limit is coach will find it coach will
it's going to be some of the hardest work he's ever had to do in his life. Hey, Mab says that he wants to fight
again in December. But before I get to that, Joe, what is it going to take to beat Morab? You you got to knock him
out, right? Like if you're going to beat him, you have to put him to sleep, right? You got to flatline him because winning a decision over him would seem
exceedingly hard. I knew you were going to ask that. So, I
I text with Sugar Sean earlier. I said, "Sean, I want an ability to drop your name to Daniel. make it look like I did
my research. Tell me what to do. He said, "Chill, give me one rematch with anybody, then let me get a shot." And he
goes, "But let me answer your question without putting myself over." He said, "I really think who we need to be looking at right now is a gentleman
named Mario Batista." He said, "Now Mario currently is booked against Nurmaga Medov where he's an underdog."
He said, "But I think he's got the ability to beat Nurmaga Medov, and if he does, we should give Batista the shot
with Morab." I'm just repeating that. I know I didn't just give you a blockbuster big main event, but that's
not quite where we're at. We're at an idea with Moram running through everybody trying all sorts of different
styles, challenges. It takes four or five guys to beat one of the greats. Four or five guys have to fight and
they're trainers. They got to sit down and take notes and then one guy tries and gets a little closer, goes, there's
some opportunity there. Oh, he even lost a round and you and then you finally get to that five, six, seventh guy that can
go out and implement it. That's where we're at in this process of trying to crack the code that is Mor's
at 14 which is crazy. He's only two He's only two short of Anderson. He's too
short of Anderson. It's absolutely insane what he's done. And Ch, he
doesn't want to stop. Like I said, he wants to fight in December in and defend his title for a fourth time in a
calendar year. Chill, we have seen guys fight before. We saw Kevin Holland fight five times in one year. Kevin Holland
wasn't a champion, wasn't main eventing all these fight cards, but he almost won fighter of the year for his activity. If
Morab wins or fights a fourth time and defends that belt, this is the greatest fighting year we've ever seen. And it's
not 12 months, just 12 months, July to July. I'm talking from January to
December, this dude would have fought four times and defended the belt four
times. Would that be the greatest year in MMA history? There there there's the the sport,
right? But then there's the game which involves the sport and the business. I love what Morab's doing, but to act as
though he didn't just do it in a co-main event. I know that's not his fault. Look, if there's two titles, there's a
policy and we give it to the heavier guy. I understand all of those things, but Daniel, for really get that that
that acclaim from the crowd, there's got to be that big match. And Morab is doing
his part. He's largely had him. He's largely already been there within the Cejudos of the world. I understand this
is critical, but the division does need to match him. It can't be just Shawn Ali that builds interest. Mario Batista
needs to do it. It wouldn't hurt your teammate Nurmagamed up to step up and start to do to do something that's
interesting that can get these great fighters into the feature contest. I do think Coain in January because Islam main
evented the card. He was in the main event against Ali. co-main this time and he would probably be the main event
because when you look at December I think uh the flyweights are one of the
championship matches that aren't matched and if we follow the rule then the heavier weight would be the bantamweight
champion Rob Dwallis Willie and by the way are we doing Caleb Kayla
and Amanda is that still a thing how come I'm not hearing buzz on that Kayla and Amanda I just don't know what date yet let me tell you how I know that
Dean Thomas who I was asking talking to the other O, so what's next, Dino? Cuz
you're doing such a great job with Joe Piper. He goes, "Well, I've been working with Amanda." I was like, "Oh, oh, Dino
is working with Amanda Nunez right now." Because, you know, Dean used to be American Top Team. Dean uh his guy Joe
Pyer beat Aboose Megaov, who's an American Top Team guy. So, yeah, Dean is uh Dean's been working with Amanda
Nunez. It's crazy. It's good. Good. It's a little scoop. You didn't quite
answer, but I understand I put you on a spot. I understand that you have info, you've been sworn to secrecy. But I I
get it. I just thought we were looking at that date of December. I'll take that off my mind. And if we are looking at Morab and Morab's the one guy asking for
it, he's the guy he'll be favored, right? Because the only one available right now is Porant because Umar and uh
Mario are fighting in Abu Dhabi. I think that and honestly, I think like watching him fight Nur Mega Medov, that's the
most competitive matchup cuz Umar did go up two-0. But for me, it's about either flatlining him, chill, or you have to go
a dead sprint for 15 minutes, try to go up three-0 because he does lose rounds, especially the first round whenever the
guy's fresh and cuz he's Morab's not the most skilled guy. But Morab will wear
you down and beat you. So, he will lose rounds, especially early, but that's he'll always win the fourth and the
fifth round. You got to get to three before he can start to get to you. Because if you go one- one, 2-1,
he gonna get you by the end. His cardio's too good. Chill. October 6, 2018, UFC 229. The greatest
night in MMA history. McGregor versus Normega Medov. Do you remember where
were you in the building, Ch? I bought tickets. Yes, I bought ticket shops. I spent 10 grand
to go and buy tickets for me and my family. It was that hot a ticket. Chill.
It was such a hot ticket that me as the UFC heavyweight and and light
heavyweight champion. They said, "Dec we we we have no tickets." I said, "Then I'll buy him. I have to support my guy."
I bought front row tickets. And uh it was just the the dude when when when
when Connor walks out, when Khabib walks out, I almost have chills thinking about
it. Chill. I still go back today and watch them just walk to the octagon. It
was that big a deal. It was very clear going in that Kabib
was the better fighter and he was the more disciplined fighter and it was going to be his night. But Daniel, if you followed the week that was, if you
follow the press conference, Conor McGregor could sell ice to a freezing man. There was no way to count him out.
He walks out there with a confidence that you can't hide. Borsari adds this
smoke element. So now Connor's doing the smoke. He's in the middle of the ring. The referee's trying to push him back
and Connor's doing his big bow. I mean, it was just one of these epic moments where we completely ignored Kabib, who
by the way was the favorite of the fight. But it was one of the things that was so special. Then Kabib has the big
shot that lands. He does more damage with a punch than Mayweather was able to do to Connor. There's the talk. There's
back and forth. There's the antics with Dylan Danis afterwards. They had to get covered to the governor and get the
governor out of the building. I mean, all hell broke loose. Putin's on the telephone. Dana's refusing to put the
belt around the waist cuz he thinks that's going to make things erupt even more. They never give Kabib his glorious moment. They usher him to the back,
which in hindsight was the perfect way to handle that. You ask me, do I remember that night, partner? I will
never forget, man. That night, let me tell you, as I'm watching Kabib walk, he turns the corner and he sees one of the
ushers and he looks at him and he fistbumps me and I go, "Oh, he going to be okay." I was like, he he's feel like
he was good. He was good. He wasn't nervous. on the verge of the biggest moment of his life. I went to his locker
room jail and I gave him a hug and the boys just felt ready. I was like, I know that this moment is bigger than anything
we've all been a part of. We have won so many titles at AKA. But we've never been a part of anything like this, but we got
the right guy out there, right? It was same with when Kane fought Brock. It was like first one on Fox, big deal. Or no,
no, it wasn't Fox, but we had the right guy, right? We had the right guy. And it was like Kabib was just right for that
moment, man. Because you needed a guy with a steel trap of a mind. Connor was not going to get in his head.
From the the the the the Dolly incident to the insults. Uh so many big moments
that led to that Connor coming off of the the Mayweather rub back in the UFC.
It was nuts, dude. And then, hey, the fight breaks out. Kabib is completely
losing his mind about getting his belt. I explained to him, "Please, champ, please, just please, bro." They took my
family. They usher our families out of the front row to save them from all the trash that's getting thrown.
Finally, Kabib calms down. Dana says, "You know what? Take your money back." He goes, "Cuz I don't know
that I would have been able to get this situation under control without you." He goes, "You're not paying." Dude, it was just the most insane night ever. And
then the emote. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What happened with the money? But you're not paying for tickets. I
don't know that I could have gotten this under control without because you calmed them down. But when
we were walking back to the back there, I mean, Irish people were just throwing water and liquor and everything
over like covering Kabib to try to get him out of he was he was mad. He was just really really mad because uh they
disrespected his his father and went he went heel. By the way, Khabib turned
heel in that moment. Became a global superstar on that night, dude. It was absolutely crazy. Unbelievable. Chill, that's another good
episode of Good Guy, Bad Guy. My brother, go and tell your daughter that Uncle DC says I'll be sending flowers,
chocolates, and a gift because she kicked that boy's butt and that she is the best. So for Chel Sunonn, I'm Daniel
Cormier. Until next time, guys. Peace.