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[Applause] it’s been a great week for Walkin Buckley all the changes that he made in his Camp have paid off but guess what they can’t stop what is destined for me it’s already written in the stars man and I’mma take what’s mine bro walk in [Applause] new welcome to UFC unfilter please tell me that’s on video I’ve never been happier I’m made for a 2 00:00:34,0 –> 00:00:38,79 podcast that’s dangerous listen to me we’re out of [Music] here and a five and a four and a three no I’m kidding welcome to UFC unfiltered my dear friend Matt Sarah and I are here looking forward to Today’s Show Wen Buckley who I love watching um he’s a really really fun guy to watch and uh preacher Lawson really funny comic and I didn’t realize until today that he trains MMA as well he looks like he does when you look at preacher you’re like yeah he’s in good shape it’s not surprising he has a fight he had a fight I should say yeah we’re gonna watch clips of it oh I would love to see that yeah because I imagine it really does change your fear because I’ve only trained and um you know preacher and I are not in the same shape even though I do train a little MMA um I spoke to somebody an old school an OG black belt OG black belt um and he said that you’re that you’re really you’re training hard and that when when Jedi Mike gave you that stripe that you really just lit up yes um I’m serious it was David Chung Do you remember you know D oh yeah I love David sure I know David since I was 20 years old and I will be 50 in June so I know DA 30 years and he’s a I know what’s just demented I’m talking to him uh yesterday just catching up and uh you know I’m like yo man David I know you so long you were older than me I’m gonna be 50 dude he turned he’s 59 wow I go and how does David look amazing he looks like he’s 30 dude he gu never changeed he has the he always looks the same you know but uh great guy great guy David chunk Bel on the henzo and he’s going to be opening his school I believe on 85th in Lexington oh yeah yeah yeah is David opening that David’s gonna be running that school I heard oh that’s great so uh you know I told him that in the upcoming weeks I’m gonna be going to menzo to visit you I would love that yeah and and I’m around now this week next week and um you know it’s funny I got my uh he gave me a second stripe and I I don’t even feel like I deserve it and that and that that night I went home and I washed my ghee and the stripe was gone the next day like my washing machine ate the stripe so I still have one and I’m like that’s fine no no no no that it doesn’t work like that you didn’t get demoted from your washing machine you understand you know yeah put that thing back on and you have it if you didn’t lose it your skills didn’t diminish because that piece of tape fell off oh no no I I don’t mind not having it I’m okay not no put the goddamn thing back on put back on okay don’t be a sandbagger now listen this is the deal Jimmy what’s sagger that’s a person that’s like oh you roll with him you’re like wow man and he’s really a purple belt but he’s like he’s wearing a BL right I I just train with the same guy every day I train with Martin who’s a purple and I heard he’s they’re pushing you and they’re making you do a little bit more and you’re pushing you a little bit more out of your comfort zone and you’re trying and I like it a lot you know David doesn’t me it’s great Jimmy it really is great for you because okay you get behind somebody you can strangle them just as easy as me man no I couldn’t and my uh my chokes need work but I’ll get them to put that back on I just didn’t you know I just don’t care because I’m not gonna compete can I give you a little can I give you a hint that my wife found out about those stripes because she you know we have kids and what get you get nail polish and you put that on the stripes yourt secures it a little bit it doesn’t fall off after that yeah oh okay there you go all those Jiu-Jitsu people out there I lost the stripe put a little nail polish on that on your belt okay I just feel stupid asking like I have my strip back I didn’t want to go and ask no just say stripe fell off you know why you do that though because there’s times that me I all right Ian get over here you big freak you deserve this fourth stripe meanwhile he already had four and you know you know you’re giving him another stripe it’s rough there was a time can I tell you something that’s funny it’s really funny and right before unless Our Guest get here let us know but you know like me he’s hysterical in a sense where he loves Jiu-Jitsu but he’s not the best with the belts he has a lot of students Master henzo gray so one time a buddy of ours has a karate school in somewhere around the uh tri-state area I don’t want to make it too obvious and he had henzo down for a seminar now this guy uh trained in the in the morning when John Daner was still there right the the the our Evil Genius friend John Daner so goes look this gentleman’s due for his next spell so hzo goes good I’m gonna do a seminar at his Blaze I’ll do it then so in front of all the guy students right I guess he wasn’t wearing a ghee that day here you go a brown belt ain’t that beautiful but guess what hzo I’m already a brown belt hzo goes my man two Browns equal a blackz didn’t know what the and then he goes to Dad her why did you tell me the is a brown belt so anyway listen I’ve seen henzo give out two purple belts before now this does it make him an awful person absolutely not like me I am a forgetful person and I’m too busy spreading positivity and love in Jiu-Jitsu making good people dangerous where that’s the worst thing about me then that’s the worst thing about me anyway so anyway so they gave the guy his black belt well basic yeah well I me two brown belts if you ever get two brown belts that equals a black Bel and just ride with it and guess what I bet it kept tenzo up at night not one second doesn’t again H’s funny yeah he doesn’t seem like he would stress over that ah HZ was fighting in the cage like three years ago the guy’s in his late 50s it’s yeah um but yeah I never can’t like I because I look at it like I’m only gonna do this type of training and I know why I’m doing it like uh my the guy who trains with me uh the purple bell who’s very good this kid Martin he’s uh he’s going out to Vegas he’s doing like a tournament like these guys really are in it I I’m just doing it so I don’t get beaten up in a on the board walk like I just don’t want to get my ass kicked I’m never going to compete I get tired too fast you know I just want to not be humiliated in public you know our guest the um the uh what’s his namee Buckley or preacher Lawson preacher Lawson yeah preach Lawson had an MMA fight and he looked I just saw him on moving around on um on his Instagram he looks like he moves nice uh and he’s a good Striker but he got tied in it and on his own Instagram comments and stuff like he makes posts on his thing like man this is when I really knew I was in trouble like when he got tied so I want to talk to him about yeah he’s obviously trains but the difference between you know sometimes guys it’s the first time they ever feel like like how tired you could be like that I don’t think people realize there’s getting tired and then there’s then there’s getting tired like in other words oh I had a hard training man I’m breathing but when you’re in a fight and you’re you might feel there’s something wrong with you how tired you’re going to be like you’re like like you’re like yo this ain’t Everything feels just like you can’t move yeah adrenaline dump it’s a different feeling like and guy’s trying to kick your ass and and it’s not a training part where you can stop and take a breath the guy’s trying to hurt you you know what’s funny about that you know all you got to do is just do just do that you can get out of there or just cover up for an extra second they at so it’s a mind because you don’t want to give up so I don’t know it’s uh it’s something else I want to talk to him about that he faced both of his the biggest fears out there fighting in a cage it’s pretty big I’d imagine and uh you know do your stand up comedy in front of people that’s a big fear people you know they get afraid of I know you’re gon be like no it’s not the same thing there’s no bodily harm usually involved unless you’re Chris Rock but hey the fact is people are afraid to be embarrassed in front of people that it that you’re right that’s what it is it’s funny how the fear of being punched in the face and like legitimately getting hurt is equated with this social thing we have where we’re afraid of what other people will think of us that’s all it is what will they think and they are people who we usually don’t give a about to begin with it’s the human thing I guess it’s probably ingrained in us for nature tribal whatever but like people I don’t care about at all I was doing a set last night at the comedy seller I was doing very well and there was two women up front and one was just kind of stone facing me and I was just ruining my I was like what the I was just so I didn’t say anything how was she throughout the whole thing like was that just her face just not enjoying me um but I didn’t address it because she was not being she’s allowed to not enjoy me you know I she she’s not obligated to laugh but I it’s funny how like you just notice that and this is a person I don’t care about at all but it was still on my mind I’m like why do I care what she thinks maybe she just had a resting Stone face honestly it might have been one of those things too but there was a few really good lines and she gave me nothing so I was like ah she doesn’t like me hey even though walking Buckley is fighting Vicente luk instead of Shawn Brady who he was supposed to fight luk you mean was supposed to fight him wait who was supposed to fight who I’m confused luk a was supposed to fight Sean Brady or walking Buckley was supposed to fight Shawn Brady oh you might be right oh luk was supposed to fight Shawn Brady my bad oh okay I was right all right all right well this is very dangerous for him because what is wae what is his ranking walk Buckley and what is Shawn Brady’s rankling I’m assuming that Shawn Brady is let me look way ahead of it not ranked at well to weight well I mean let me tell you you gotta get props for for luk you mean for for taking the fight I think so did you ever see that highlight of Buckley you did that M kick or when the guy had his leg and he jumped in the air and he did a jumping back kick to the chin yeah you’ve seen that I was watching it when it happened it was amazing can’t unsee that no that was a great great what what would you do when you seen it that picture you just seen it what I do this what’ you do I do this you’re the girl in the audience you’re the stoneface in the audience no I do this like I nod because that’s what I would have done nod like exactly what you would have done that’s what I was thinking my little bird you’re going to need Wings to get up that high he jumped up off that floor like like like he had like had wi attached to him if that was in a movie you’d say did you watch um Road House no someone else asked me that too it might have been you actually I did not I have like 15 minutes left of it sometimes I I’m watching up at the end my wife’s like ah you can’t stay I go she we got like less than 20 minutes ah 20 minutes I could use the bathroom and being better ready yeah you know what I mean I mean something tells me Jake jinal is gonna win this thing but Conor is basically it’s he’s doing I think he does great in it and you know me I don’t I’m gonna call yeah sure but the good news is he I think he did phenomenal and not bad news but the only other thing is I think he’s just playing himself yeah I mean a lot of times the guy’s not an actor so that probably no well I mean like what it is is is I get confused with with the real life and because I’m thinking of all the crazy scenes I oh I like the part when he’s on the boat and then there’s a part when I don’t want to be spoilers when he goes in the bar with a golf club and he’s like d KN is here yeah and he I kid do an accent but then he’s and then there’s another part when he takes a trolley and he he throws it into a bus that’s that happened in real life but listen it gets confusing what it it bleeds over so basically he’s not doing Hamlet he’s just basically being Conor and uh he does it well he does it well yeah I mean look a lot of guys don’t do a good job even when they’re playing themselves so the fact that he’s able to pull it off um he does good for him yeah he seems pretty confident yeah know what that word is that word is charisma yeah yeah yeah he does have it and he’s a confident guy yeah um so good for him um I’m looking forward to speaking to uh to wen I was also Matt as we chitchatting uh even though it’s not happening yet but I was looking up UFC 300 just at what an we got we got a weekend call this weekend oh I know I know but I was just I’m just spitballing it I’m think the opening fight of the early prelims okay Davidson figuro versus Cody garbrandt that’s how stacked that card is literally both former Champions I want I want I want the best for Cody I want Cody to win I like I like Cody a lot I do too he’s a great guy you like the second fight of the early prelims is Jim Miller against Bobby green dude that’s gonna be an insane night bro there’s not a fight you can miss on this card you cannot miss a fight I I’m gonna talk about this card with you in detail you talking I’m going to talk to about this card did I tell you wait let me guess hold on let me guess did I tell you this already uh no why you well you didn’t guess though you just said no oh you’re gonna talk about this with Dana because you’re friends I am friends with Dana but no uh who are you gonna talk about this with you don’t have I can just tell you Diddy yeah he’s making that one phone call to call me listen this is it I’m am doing The Joe Rogan Experience again I’m gonna be gone next Wednesday I’ll be in Texas remind me to call down her because I want to do that Brazilian barbecue with him again I am gonna I I and I don’t see him often but the last time I was there I had dinner with Dan her and I’m gonna do that again I like that guy I miss him I’ve only met him that one time I don’t know him oh dude he’s I you know what it is man I like to reminisce and me and John spent many times at burritoville at places after on in the city just getting something to eat after class and talking about just different things in the future now here we are in the future sure kind of weird like I’m looking weird yeah you talk about everything from back then the crazy days to now and what’s nice is we’re both doing well both doing great I mean John is one of the most unique and sort of the minds of Jiu-Jitsu in the world in the world which is weird it’s the world you know and uh me ah I like that fun listen mat you’re both you’re both oh Legends well you are you’re both Jiu-Jitsu Legends well thank you Jimmy um and that’s coming from a white belt thank you but you got your hands with your fists well oh Jimmy well I am heavy-handed I mean you don’t got embarrass me Jimmy um what are you you who you going to talk to about 300 John Dan are you saying or or Rogan I’m going out I’ll talk maybe I’ll talk about it with Daner but I’m going out there and I’m doing the uh the Rogan show again Joe R The Joe Rogan Experience with uh with my buddies that were on last time Dean Thomas and John R Big John R so we have a good time man we had a good time last time so I I think that we’ll have a good time this this I’m sure you will and yeah we haven’t heard from aen no big deal if it maybe it just be preacher to lawon guys get time zones up they get all of these things uh up gets in here he’s a very funny standup by the way he’s a really good what’s that did you see him before I’ve seen clips of him for for years he was on I think was America’s Got Talent um and he’s just a really he’s a good standup he’s a clean comic too so you can go see him with family you can bring your your wife your wife’s mother um you know that’s probably why he does so well because you can go back and see him with you know you don’t have to worry about him ruining your a relationship like you like you take the whole family to see you I’m a I am a ruiner of relationships that’s what I do that is what you do I listen can I tell you something without sure I’d love to hear it without being a little too bold what I could be bold yeah we’re very good friends thank you I feel that the next 125 pound Women’s Champion is fighting this weekend Erin blanchfield I feel yeah that she will be the next champ that’s what I feel I don’t think um I don’t think this is going to sound crazy that I’m saying that you could just remember this that I am saying that for the people that are watching and they want to timestamp this thing wow mad Sarah I hate to do the third person thing I don’t like doing the third person thing but no Jim Jim doesn’t like when you do it either but I feel that Erin blanchfield will be the next Champion I he I feel her her jiujitsu is so on point and her standup is solid where she has a good idea of um a good feel for range her strikes are are on point they’re not it’s not sloppy striking and she Blends it together so well with with her shots and her clinches and her that andard Jiu-Jitsu is just man there’s no giving up position it’s very pinpoint I’m taking you down I’m passing you guard I’m Smit you or I’m mounting you I’m you know what I mean she’s always she’s got a clean game man I I can’t wait to see and and then listen she’s fighting a killer this weekend though Faro yeah yeah fough is is nasty man and fough is nasty and uh she hasn’t lost yet in the UFC and they wow look at their records one’s 11- one outside the UFC six and0 in the UFC yeah that’s uh that was um foro oh yeah and you look at Erin she’s 12 and one and six and0 same in the UFC tremendously well matched dude very evenly as far as records but different when it comes to Styles because eron even though she’s his she has good standup she’s more of a um a Jiu-Jitsu Wizard and um and and you know for is just you know she’s just nasty with all her limbs with the strikes uh let’s pick okay buddy um being that you are up by four which really wow let’s look at that for a second I’d rather not I like like it I like my face on it you’re a brager and you’re up by 16 points this is the you have seven wins and 12 losses I do I have 11 eight losses and just so you know and this is back when my head was bigger that’s what you got to look at now yeah I it’s like you’re taunting ah I can hear I don’t like it sorry so s j I’m gonna B you little cheeks B you little cheeks sorry J uh hey I’m I’m gonna go right into this eron blanchfield second round sub see now I really like Aaron blandfield so I want to pick her but you picked her let me see goad be go ahead get another around what yeah I mean for us winning all decisions um except for Richi Jimmy we could be heroes me and you every day make every day what third round sub for Aaron blanchfield I probably would have went second round um but I’ll go third round sub Aaron blf oh all right all right good good for you all right I picked second around sub all right all right viente luk versus Wen Buckley man oh man oh what a good fight what a fight I know who I’m picking who well I’ll tell you who I’m picking you go first I know I got mine already I got it already chambered up ready that’s not that’s not even all you do vente luk decision okay the thing about viente luk man is he dangerous very dangerous now you picked him by decision yes and I and I know he has submissions and he has knockout power yes think a look the Buckley’s also got heavy hands um and so I think that you know Luka is not stupid you wonder if he’ll be a little more cautious fighting an unranked guy because again this is a tremendous chance for Buckley so is luuk a little more careful um because beating Buckley is great but it doesn’t put him any higher or closer to a championship losing to him hurts him now listen please listen sure vente luk was getting ready for a different guy Shan Brady you understand sure since waim cut down he’s on a two fight winning streak since he cut down yeah yep he has a lot of power so uh second round knockout Buckley and I wasn’t even how about this how about me changing my pick because I have something Jimmy that they dropped very late in life for you but they finally dropped I got nuts I’m sorry Jimmy first of all I’m sorry that was rude yes let me take that was I I made my pick I kind of took a shot at you which was very very hurtful like me I’m sorry Jimmy you saying hurt Jimmy I’m sorry I pick I pick wae Buckley by second round stoppage that’s what I’m saying man I know I’ll take luuk a by decision we’re both saying we respect Buckley’s power and I think luuk a respects it enough and I I don’t think he’s going to stay away but I mean I think he’s going to be smart enough to avoid uh being dropped by Walkin now interesting fight third let’s do three I gotta catch up we’re going to do Chris Weidman against Bruno Silva um Chris has dropped uh a couple um actually four out of five and so has Bruno Silva so they’re both kind of in a position of really needing a win here um Chris fought in August of 23 uh against Taris and they both lost decisions uh um well he lost to uh magov Bruno Silva in October second round head and arm choke Chris widen I haven’t seen him for this Camp I haven’t even really spoke to him much but I do love Chris Weidman and uh you know every day people make every day Wiman decision W widman decision I always singing We Could Be Heroes okay I don’t know who sings it it’s a girl can we look that up we could be [Music] hero me and you Jimmy you know what would make me a hero if I was able to stop the singing if I could put an end to the singing I would be a hero to the unfiltered Army no I don’t agree yo we got preacher Lawson coming in yeah wait if he comes I mean we already got stood up once H Jimmy yes I got new mats put in today thanks to all my guys that helped me put that in can I tell you the the problem with new mats Matt they’re slippery and they upstairs at Hen there’s a little Gap at a couple of them and they got to push them together a little bit and they there slip they’re getting better though but when you first put him in I was sliding all over the place yeah I don’t know what he’s using over there it’s probably something nice I’m Fuji mats and uh they are nice how old were your other mats how long have you had them oh shoot man I had them for a minute like the kids say a long time some of them are raggy I got I had some newer ones put in because of some damage a while back so some of them are worse than others but it’s time it’s time was it more than three years oh yeah yeah those mats are old how much does a one mat cost uh I’d have to look at my books is it in the hundreds of dollars I have a comic book oh all right it’s my kids it’s not my kids yours okay this one’s this one’s War of the bounty hunters wow preacher lawon mercifully is thank you preacher Lawson who’s just saved me a comic book description I was joking around let’s get him in what great timing he has like I’m very happy he’s here I want to talk to him about everything yeah me too I had no idea he trained so you see his comedy before this oh again I’ve seen clips of him online um I think we’ve uh he was on the radio show I do too he’s a very good comic fight what’s that when did he fight well I’ll ask him my [Music] man hey preacher how are you I’m great man just found thought I’m good I’m good I’m good how you doing what you got some good news preacher is that what you said no I mean you know I was gonna say just found out I’m not the father God is good but I don’t know how good of news that is but yo we weren’t even prepared for that preacher that’s great news but but hey man congrats thanks man now a comedian and I just watched some of you moving around dude I’ll tell you I don’t know how your ground game is but I don’t have I’m a flat-footed you can move H how long have you been training for about four years I think it’s been four years yeah 2009 yeah four years second five years oh five years now and what did you what did did you want to start training and what did you train in um I I started train oh that’s me that’s your boy yeah that’s your boy right there I was uh but yeah I started training because you know I missed my ex and I was like what if she had a boyfriend and that’s all I needed really and so I I went to go train and uh I I wanted a new workout too I feel like going to the gym is like I feel like it’s I I just feel like it’s boring so I want to learn something new and so I went to this gym right here which is uprise is an MMA gym so I started training like MMA I used to be heavier in the Jiu-Jitsu but then yeah yeah I used to be heavier than the Jiu-Jitsu and I just started striking more but you had a very Bobby green uh type of foot movement your hands are down you’re kind of moving it’s very Bobby greenish and it but your head movement is great and it really it’s so funny a girlfriend you just did you want to get out like bad feelings or aggression or sadness or whatever you trained no I just wanted just in my brain I was like if I could beat up a new boyfriend she’ll love me back in my brain all right it’s not a real thing but in my head you know how Stuff play you movies play and she’s like you know this boyfriend and I’m like and then she’s like oh my gosh I shouldn’t be with you again so but uh no I just really I really the main reason was because I I wanted just a different workout besides going to the gym so I started rock climbing you know that was I was a huge fan of that which made my when I did do Jitsu made my RI like so much more like it was really uh really cool and I just felt I’ve always loved MMA I’ve watched MMA since I remember when Anderson Silva was on uh when he first he did his first fight against Chris leben and I was like man that black dude good I F I fought on that I fought on that card bro it was a it’s when I won The Ultimate Fighter it was when I yeah yeah I was backstage seeing him knock out Chris leben that’s so funny W that BR now what made you there’s one thing about tring and you wanted a different workout but there’s another thing with taking a fight what made you how long were you training when you took the fight and tell me about that experience what made you want to do that I’ve been training in a minute I had been training a minute so like I I trained it for like a year before I even like uh started regularly Spar like I mean I yeah so it took a second I just dabbled in it and were you doing stand up at this point yeah I was doing I’ve been doing stand up the whole time that’s another reason I couldn’t spar because spar’s on Friday and I would be on the road right then I would go then I would go on the road and I would train at different gyms and different gyms would teach me different things and it was really cool I feel like I was learning faster because you know there’s so many different gyms and they have different techniques and some people would say the same exact thing to you know like a technique that it was my coach was explaining but they said it differently and I was like oh that’s that’s what it is so um yeah I did my first point kick boxing match uh like maybe like a year and a half in maybe like two maybe a year and a half in I did my first MMA match um that was two years ago so like yeah like I guess like two and a half two and a half year yeah yeah are tell me about the pre-fight nerves how was that oh I wasn’t afraid at all I was I was like I’mma kill this dude I was so arrogant loose you said what I said look at you you have you’re dancing you’re having a good time man I was not you’re showing your ass a little you’re oh look at you oh dud you’re an Entertainer not nervous this is worth this is worth the money alone just watching you c a dance so now what happens in this fight now from what I heard it was going well and then you got tired is that correct yeah well the first of my my training my the Camp was horrible first off I don’t this dude might have had a bad training camp too but I was set up to do another fight I was supposed to fight 174 pounds it was my fight was supposed to be next week and then and uh it was supposed to be next week and then I was 174 pounds so all I had to do was lose four pounds in a week yeah I was like going in on this yeah KN it started nice yeah yeah this what happened was I never tried to hurt anybody I’ve never even anybody outside the spa so when I hit him and it looked like I rocked him I was like I got him I got him and so I went as hard as I could and I forgot to I forgot to breathe so I was like holding my breath the whole time yeah and then I was gas I mean I was already gas I I I I was I was already gas and I somehow that’s me woman he knew he effed up yeah yeah was it a little bit of an adrenaline dump I I I I don’t think it was an adrenaline dump because I wasn’t feeling like over excited I wasn’t feeling scared I was really calm I honestly was so confident that I was gonna I thought I was gonna be super yeah that was a thumbs up I was lying I could not breathe but I was like if I give a thumbs up he’s gonna see it and he’ll let and he did and he stopped squeezing his heart because he was like okay but I couldn’t breathe he didn’t have it fully in but I was like if he fun yeah he strangle you with one arm he can yeah yeah oh I I was you know oh dude hey well well tell me about the experience what did not to be like that what did you learn but some people do not know how what tired is until they felt something like this is that the most tired you’ve been in your life type of thing my entire life I was tired in the first round we had to do two more rounds and I thought he was going to finish me I I went to the I went to the round I was like oh so I he’s going to he’s going to knock me out or he’s going to submit me in the second round I was I was already that tired then I somehow made it to the final Bell so I was even I didn’t even know you can be that tired but I did feel like I found something in my I wasn’t a quitter I thought you didn’t take the easy way out or you didn’t take it out when when the ref was asking you for the thumbs up you could have got out of it and and you didn’t is it weird too like when you’re cuz you said you never really tried to hurt anybody and sparring when you really are trying to hurt somebody and they’re able to withstand it like uh like oh yeah this guy’s a a tough guy he’s a fighter and I’m I’m hitting him hard and he’s still here does that do anything to you is that kind of a shock yeah I think that you know how I said I wasn’t like nervous or like scared before the fight I wasn’t the only time I got scared is when I was tired and I was looking across this the cage and he was like I just got here and I’m like that’s when I got scared I was yeah so I mean it it was uh it’s kind of like terrifying but in in my mind I’m like just act like you ain’t tired you know now this this is a legit question for both you guys being comedians how many comedians honestly you think started taking some self-defense MMA lessons after Will Smith got smacked Chris Rock You Think I’m honest do you think some people think that they got involved they got a little nervous I think they started doing it when Joe Rogan got popular yeah Rogan was more of an inspiration I think to people than Chris getting slapped yeah okay because I don’t think people I think even an MMA guy might not have been taken off guard by Will Smith because I think Chris thought he was doing a bit like he didn’t think that he was really going to hit him you don’t think the biggest star on Earth is going to slap you with the OS so you expecting some kind of a bit so you probably wouldn’t get into a defensive stance with Will Smith coming and what you would think was being around yeah I would love for will slap me I would too that be great I would just I would stop doing comedy I’m like all right I gu something good I guess yeah you are good at that for sure did you fight just to kind of test yourself too and go like I really want because it is a scary thing to have a physical confrontation and what we do is a different there’s there’s that weird barrier between you and an audience was it something that you just wanted to see if you could do it or is it something you want to do again you I I I mean I mean I I was just doing it to work out and then I felt like I was really good you know I’ve never been like dropped or like I never had a black eye or nothing like that you know I had a bloody nose one time but i’ I’ve always felt like you know I’ve been I’ve been good enough to not like get knocked out so I was like okay so someone my you know someone that’s been doing it around the same time I’ve been doing it you know they should that should be a good fight for me so I just wanted to test myself and I would love to do it again I’m not gonna do it for free but I would love to do it again that was a long time ago I’ve learned so much from that fight I’ve been Muay Tha matches since then and um yeah so I haven’t done but yeah I love I learned a lot I learned I learned I feel like I learned more in in that fight than I’ve learned just you know in in that amount of time in life like I I just learned take your time and breathe and just like you know just I learned so much yeah you know I tell yeah no I I I believe it I tell students and they compete in the local grappling tournaments that comes to town these guys are jumping in tournaments I tell them I from white belts to to whatever bels I go look each time you go into one of those it’s the equivalent of a few months of training because it’s so intense I go guys you notice how you could train here for a half an hour and you know you’re breathing you do a FIV minute match you guys are dead you’re tired you’re like what’s the intensity of it’s nothing changes the gravity is not different in that gymnasium nothing’s different there The Leverage is not different but you getting exhausted man because why it’s so intense and an M an MMA fight is even more so so it is it is a a crazy learning experience you know the level of tired I get just rolling like I I mean I couldn’t I I have bad cardio and I’m you know I got side fat and you know I I’ve never had good cardio but the like I I’ll sometimes be so exhausted after like five minutes of rolling I don’t know how anybody actually does this professionally like you have a new respect for guys that make a living doing that when can’t do it for more than five minutes with a guy who’s not even trying to submit me he’s a purple belt who’s helping me like if he was trying to submit me I would be tapped immediately so yeah it’s a newfound respect for it um does it change the way you address the audience at all uh do you feel any different in front of the audience uh or with potential threats from The Crowd Oh no I don’t think I my crowd isn’t even like threatening I got a bunch of families that come to my show nice people yeah said you’re clean man he says you you have like is I heard I’m not a comedian but I heard it’s a lot harder to be clean and and good to be really good and clean is harder yeah I I think I think that dirty is just funny you know so I I think that you know just to find a way to you know uh be funny cleaner you know maybe it doesn’t seem harder to me because that’s what I’ve been doing my whole the whole time I’ve been doing standup but uh yeah I I think that I you know I mean if you funny is funny hopefully people leave my show don’t even realize that’s what I want I don’t want people be like I want people just to laugh I opened for uh I don’t know Jim Norton he probably doesn’t remember but I opened for him in um in uh at Sid Splitters in Tampa and it every show was like sold out and then I took pictures for him and then he paid me afterwards and that’s my God happened I I remember I remember him giving me like a100 to take I don’t know if you what is out there now I already said it but to take to do this wow I was like it’s great and I never forgot that oh good I’m so glad it wasn’t that Norton stiffed me that’ be the worst no no no no I me you gave me $100 to take pictures I was like what and so yeah that’s a great gig by the way I’m doing that again in October that Tampa Sid Splitters I love that place they’re awesome great Club old Club PR when did you know one that you could actually make a living out of this well and well that’s it when did you know that you could actually make a living out of this I mean that you were good and you could make a living out of because that’s the biggest thing you know like man I mean when somebody says oh I’m a comedian and you tell her to maybe a girl at the bar or something they’re probably like all right this guy’s either going somewhere or he’s you know what I mean it’s it’s almost like a fighter it’s like they either take it or they don’t so how do you know like you you could make it like as a comedian yeah I I knew that it took me like I mean I guess it it has stened like it’s there’s times where I’m like I can do it and I can’t do it but I think I was when I when I was like oh I think I can for sure do this I was like six years in I was six years in and I was like okay if I actually tried I think you know make it as a comedian that’s when I decided to move that’s when I decided to move to LA and then you know things started happening then when I got off you know America’s Got tal that was my first big TV show and then that’s when I was like oh I can make money like I was not expecting to like you know make money out it I mean that you know the year before that I was hosting for Jim Norton so it like it was uh it was it was really cool it was really eight years and isn’t it weird too like one day it just all of a sudden you’re complaining about travel or whatever like I F and they like oh my god this is my life like I really am this really is my job like this is not me dreaming anymore I’m bitching about something at work and this is my life like I I this is what I do for a living yeah yeah I I have to catch myself sometimes because let’s be honest it is exhausting I mean I I think it me me being exhausting like being on the road I I I think about like MMA fighters or I think about like basketball players or I think about just other like athletes or just other jobs that have to fly all the time and I I actually have a little bit more respect for them after you know because this is like even though it is exhausting it’s the best job ever I mean it’s the best job I mean I would be exhausted and complaining if I was working at Red Lobster still you know but now I’m I’m exhausted I’m complaining about a job I love and it pay well so luxury problems they call them luxury problems and but they’re nice to have but it does it just it does mean that you’re really doing it when the things about this job bug you like the things about any job like and you’re on tour right now and by the way you’re a really good stand up man a really funny standup and your second special my name is preacher just came out on YouTube which honestly is what it’s really the smart way to do it because anybody in every country can see it uh there’s no times to watch it people can just open the computer and watch um you’re going be in 20 different states so just to let people know preacher lawson.com if you want to see preacher who is a really really legit funny standup thank you thank you awesome you’re welcome yeah um and what we just talking about I just wanted to mentioned to uh to plug and I I forgot we were just we were just talking about oh touring it on the road you know it’s funny I just did uh 12 days away and I never do any I do three days I come back I do radio and I go back out I hate being away for more than a week you do do you take a bus and just go out or how do you do it uh yeah I mean usually I do what you do I do the the three um you know three or four shows uh three or four days and then I’m back and three or four days I’m back and uh but this you know this this year has been a lot of like gone for two weeks gone for three weeks you know I’m about to like now I’m leaving tomorrow and I’ll be back in like two and a half weeks so yeah only for a couple days and I’m gone again so I mean yeah uh yeah there we go baby yeah there we go wow that’s a lot of shows yeah yeah I don’t got any kids I don’t have a kids I don’t have a girlfriend so I’m like what am I gonna be doing you know well that’s that’s the best time to do it you’re not gonna feel anything man like yeah that is so great that is great like when I went to The Ultimate Fighter house if I had kids when I did that for six weeks I don’t think I’d be the same thing so I mean you you’re traveling you’re making money do you have a feel sometimes when I used to travel a lot whether it’s for fights or seminars uh you have a feel like and I know guys talked about this before comedians you kind of feel like a Drifter right like you’re in and out of that town you don’t really know many people and it’s kind of it’s it’s a little odd sometimes no yeah are you are you looking for the word lonely but you don’t want to say it could be lonely yeah know it could be right I don’t know if you’re traveling with it could be but it’s but it’s but it’s strangely like it’s rewarding especially after you’re or in my case after a fight or a seminar but it is a little lonely how do you feel on being on the road so so much yeah so I do feel that I do feel like it’s incredibly lonely but then I’ll hang out with someone and I’m like you know what I’m all good like I just like sometimes I’m like I forgot I like being lonely you know but I think it uh I think it’s uh uh I think it’s good to have that for me I like I like the good and the B I know it sounds weird but I like the good and the bad or the lonely and you know I like a little mix when I was dating I was dating you know uh you know my girlfriend I first got off of started going on tour it was nice it was nice to be gone and then I see her I miss her you know and then I leave and I miss her I’m like oh good to see you again but then like you know it was it’s like uh it’s like people that work a lot then when Co happened they stuck in the house they’re like what this is what you like you know yeah I mean I I I like being on the road it does get lonely but u i I um I got my routine you know are you a good boyfriend on the road like when you’re CU I’m I’m married and I’m actually really good now but the first 25 years of my career I I was just a hunk of I mean just a terrible terrible boyfriend uh trying to get laid hitting and then after a while have you had that Temptation when you were with somebody yeah you know what that that was part of the reason I uh I I left I was actually I’m a I think I’m a great boyfriend and I think every girl I’ve ever dated has been a great girlfriend but I I remember you know I remember people like that was that was always a thought like you know you got to get out your system you gotta get out your system which I for me personally I think it’s pretty you’re not gonna get out your system you know like if you’re attracted to women you’re always gonna be attracted to like it doesn’t like leave you’re not going to get to a certain number you’re like oh I’m good now I’m done yeah yeah fin makes it worse you know because you’re like oh you do that thing you know like and so it’s just uh you know I’m I I haven’t been I’ve been mostly single when I’ve been on the road but when I W when I had a girlfriend yeah it was it was it was uh it was cool you’re living the dream yeah you really are you have do you have any do you have any uh goals to like get into movies and acting and stuff like that or no yeah that’ be awesome man I don’t think they like guys with dreads but you know name a comedian name a name an actor with dreads I mean I don’t know I just saw the a new Star Wars trailer and they got some Jedi with dreads and it’s a new time world they W put aliens before they give someone a dreads yeah older guys sometimes de get dreads but they didn’t have like Wayne does Wayne Brady have dreads now or um he does he doesn’t no who who’s who has somebody has bre Dre uh uh didn’t have them rappers and football players yeah I guess so maybe right and technically the Predator from those Predator movies could he can he rocks kind of a hairstyle it’s an alien type hair I’m not saying you know got some hair do going no I would love to get in movies and stuff man I’ve been on in a couple things and I did I was on this sitcom called connecting and I had dreads um that was in 2020 and y’all did y’all watch it that’s why they canceled it because no one watched it but but it was yeah I would I would love to get in movies I would love to act and stuff I mean this is the heaviest I’ve ever been so I mean I’ve been in that jam so I gotta be like a superhero or something you know man Bishop from X-Men live action right there Bishop Bishop from X-Men let just be I’m I’m a nerd I know all about this nobody knows who I’m talking about PR hey Matt we got waim Buckley had a scheduling mixup is in the waiting room so what oh do I said what’s up man I’m watching stuff yeah he’s great we’ll we’ll talk to him for a few minutes tell he’s got a fight on Saturday I look man you’re you’re a really good comic and I’m happy to see how well you’re doing new special um it’s called my name is preacher on YouTube and it’s uh just preacher lawon on YouTube and go to preacher lon.com for your dates and uh a lot of your tickets are selling really really well so you sell out everywhere so just go to get tickets very very good thank you so much I app I’m big fans of both of y’all was trying not to nerd out but you know I just want to say thank you for your time we’ll see you again preacher thanks buddy nice to meet you man take [Music] care that was great let’s get Walken in here yeah because I would say normally we’ll do it another day but his fight is Saturday dude we give his I know you’re a taker well let’s bring in who we we love we are fans um and I had his uh Wikipedia open preacher really is a funny standup um if you get a chance to watch him Matt I should have asked him about being a vegan he’s a vegan too right my friend has sailed I know I I like meat I don’t want to be a vegan look money bags what are these money bags is that all money of the night is that all fight of the nights I think those are bonuses or something yeah it’s a new uh a new uh way of showing us that someone has been bonused all right are you bringing them in Jake yeah what’s going on there he is oh there he is okay walk how are you yeah yeah how yall want um any any way you feel comfortable yeah but now you’re making us both dizzy that’s better okay how you feeling man we feeling good feeling like I’m about to make some money so yeah that always always nice well key this isn’t exactly short notice right you had a little bit of time for this I had plenty enough time people don’t even realize that I was training for this fight in December so I had you know they can call me Mystic maner you know I mean everybody talking about Mystic Mac you know I mean I was Mystic maner because because I called the pull out for Ian Gary and vente luk and I told Sean Shelby hit me up if you need me but he didn’t you know and then they end up making another fight for vente with uh Shawn Brady for marsh so I was like all right whatever but I I made sure to stay training I made sure to stay in the gym and soon enough they Sean Brady pulled out and they came calling on me so look at us you’re feeling good at welterweight man you’re doing phenomenal hey hey hey hey this looks better I mean it’s it’s not that you can’t hang with those guys at 85 but dude you look great how do you feel you look I feel good um just check the weight I’m about 179 right now so just 10 pounds up right now and the weight is coming off good uh sweating well I’m eating right now eating the pi little food you know I’m saying got my little chicken salad with the garlic butter herb you know so they feeding us pretty good uh but other than that yeah yes sir what motivated you to drop down did you feel uh come man come on man getting knocked out that big ass boy yeah all right that’s honest I mean a lot of guys don’t have that that type of an honest answer but I guess so yeah yeah we keep it a buck you know uh but just in our in our reality you know uh my whole career uh I’ve been a 170 fighter like I started off as an amateur at 170 um I started my pro career at 17 70 and uh I didn’t start fighting at 185 because I couldn’t find any fights at welterweight and you know when I got the opportunity to fight at 185 and you know and I knocked a couple guys out I was like cool I actually feel fresh right here uh but it’s just levels to this game you know and the guys that you know I lost to uh unfortunately whatever at 185 it just showed me you know not saying that they more talented or more skillful than me they just had a size Advantage you know and so I just learned from that was like yeah I don’t want to give anybody any type of advantage whether that size or whether you know just even uh technique or skill wise so all things being equal if a guy is bigger a guy is bigger you know what I mean it just it is what it is um so you must be really happy that you drop back down and it’s going well uh yeah yeah it’s going real good two and 0 in the uh UFC so I guess I’m like uh shano Ali I’m gonna defeat it out here you hear yeah yeah yeah yeah and this is huge listen you got the right dance partner for this this weekend I mean for Sante luk he’s he’s good on the floor but he likes to stand up man he does isn’t that what you’re looking for I mean do you want a guy looking to Grapple you I mean you you’re standing up it’s not that you don’t have a ground game but it’s so Dynamic how does it feel when a guy’s gonna be okay let’s let’s let’s let’s throw some strikes instead uh it feels good it feels like I can go out there and do some real fun things uh I can show a lot of unique techniques that I work into the uh gym and because vente is gonna be there and uh he’s going try his best you know to try to knock me out which going to leave openings for him to get hit as well so this is going to be a fun interesting match up man so the UFC didn’t really put on for everybody for this one yeah um yeah they did and what what do you hoping if things go well against luk and I’m not asking you for a call out at this point but if you have if you win against luk uh what what do you think the next step for you is like how how much higher do you want to go I got a major call out I’m GNA make you know give it to yall but I got a major call out that going to make you know and it’s somebody real close to home so yeah I can’t so you do have an A I think it’s smart to do it because again it’s it’s there’s so many we talked this the other day about this there’s so many of you guys are great Fighters that what makes it interesting for fans is two guys who actually want to fight each other uh because there’s so many talented people in the UFC now being good alone is not always enough yeah yeah it’s never enough you know if you got a name if you got something to say go ahead and say it you know don’t just keep waiting and just like how I got this opportunity the only reason why I got this opportunity because I spoke about it and I spoke on it and they said okay hey why can’t ask him for it give him what he want you know so let’s get it I have I have I have a name right now I’m not trying to get out of you the you ain’t trying to get nothing started I’m not trying to get out of you I had one name and then I thought of another guy and they just fought like wait a minute imag I’m just picturing in my head you standing across from you popping up and down is MVP what what about that what about that on the man that’d be beautiful that’d be beautiful and I I I believe uh once I’m ranked I’m ranked above MP MVP right May if you beat vente yeah you’ll take number 11 I’m sure so so I’m sure MVP gonna be trying to see somebody yeah yeah that’s true what did you think about him what did you think about his debut oh man he had me cheesing seeing that ass whooping he gave Kevin Kevin holl but I was smiling you like it I said oh get him I said get him uh but no it was it was cool man uh you know they they they put on a good show uh but I like MVP I like his Swagger I like what he brings to the cage you know and uh that’s a fight that I actually wanted when I was in Bellator uh long time ago right uh long time ago in Bellator you know so just just seeing how things out in the dynamic of uh the game yeah I believe that we can put on a great match you know for the UFC I think you’re right and it was interesting to see that fight with with Kevin because Kevin never seems to get flustered he doesn’t show it and to see him kind of getting to a point where a guy was doing something that he really was uncomfortable with it was kind of you must have really enjoyed that it was kind of strange to see got yeah yeah he got out Kevin you know definitely in that fight with the show B but uh that’s all part of the game and you know this just what we do and it comes with the territory you know so sometimes you able to you know put on the show sometimes you know uh uh M fact hold on like sometimes you able to uh uh put on the content and sometimes do the content you know in other words right yeah yeah yeah yeah hey when you’re not training and you’re not doing spinning kicks to people’s heads what are you doing give us a hobby that you’re doing whether it’s you’re reading a book listen to an audio book you’re streaming something give it something you’re doing when you’re not training to to murder people I ain’t gonna lie to you that’s all I like to do is train uh be honest with you I train a lot people don’t know how much I train I train every single day and not just every single day but throughout the day you know uh in the morning afternoon and at night uh but hobbies to make me feel like a human being and you know you know we Netflix and B you know we watch a little bit of Hulu and you know we be on the YouTube but other than that this is what I devoted my life to with this training so I don’t like to be just that boring guy but I guess I am you know I love mixed martial arts you know this what I I heard I heard that Shogun movie that show is good I’m thinking about watching it I haven’t I haven’t checked it out but it’s on Hulu though right or Hulu yeah I heard the subtitles and I got a little those the the best ones with the subtitles bro only movie I like with subtitles that I felt you didn’t really feel it and I felt was an amazing amazing movie was city of God oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I know exctly got that movie every time I watch it I feel like I watch a different thing from it it was so so well acted little Z right little Z I think yeah what was the bad kid name Zeke I’m wrong but it was it was a movie based on real and I asking about HZ like man and at the end of the movie they show like the real people and all like wow man they did a good job of that yeah yeah yeah yeah no that’s actually a great yeah a great movie to watch with subtitles uh Apocalypto is one you guys seen Apocalypto good seen apocal that’s Mel Gibson’s movie a great subtitle why why why they got subtitle titles for they’re I think they’re playing their Mayans uh I think and they’re speaking he directed this the movie that he directed right he directed yeah he’s one of the two he directed one of the three and they they’re Warriors chasing one guy it’s it’s really a masterpiece now this is the crazy part there’s only one movie out I watched and I did not watch it with the subtitles but I watched it all the way through so I didn’t understand a word they were saying but this movie called train to uh Busan or bu yeah yeah it’s a it’s a Korean movie right and it’s uh filled with zombies so these zombies are on this train this whole time but it’s action- pack but I didn’t have no subtitles and I and I pretty much was listening uh to it in Korean the whole time but it kept my attention so it was a badass movie though oh did you choose no subtitles or they just Wen available no it just weren’t available yeah yeah yeah yeah it little to be special yeah a little to be special but look Keen we we’re glad we got you we didn’t think we’re going to get you today because uh there was a scheduling mishap but we’re really happy you came yeah we’re happy you came um man event oh thank you thank you thank you I appreciate that let’s let’s promote this it’s uh this Saturday in AC 7 p.m. uh and the main card starts at 10:00 uh of course uh for against blanchfield and you got you and vente is an amazing co-main event is this three or five rounds three rounds uh just a three round I was excited for that five but that three we gonna have to get it done okay good done well we’re looking forward to it man congratulations and uh can I can I get a a little prediction on what you think gonna happen how about this I’m come how about this this is what I’m gonna say to you because we already made predictions I’m not going to talk about anything I’m talk about my my pred yeah yeah second round stoppage that’s what I said for you to win that’s what I said you can go I wouldn’t lie to you I wouldn’t lie to you you know what I mean so uh hey man I’m not putting pressure on there’s enough pressure not at all I think you’re gonna do phenomenal bro thank you thank you appreciate that that’s one love let’s get that done all right have a great fight good talking to you a keen appreciation take care bro take care pal hey man hey Jimmy you notice I’m glad we got him hey you noticed I matured a lot yes because I didn’t bring I was gonna say well listen I’m glad you brought up predictions I would tell a guy I wouldn’t want to do it before if I picked luuk a by decision uh but it was out of respect for wat kein power I think luk is a smart enough guy to stay away but I wouldn’t want to say that to a fighter before he fights like like I just I don’t want to be a dick and put anything negative in a guy’s head but afterwards I would tell somebody if I picked somebody else who cares I’m saying thank God I picked him I was almost on the fence because I like Vincente too yeah and I’m like you know what I’m going with Buckley I think that to hurt somebody you gotta be there to get hurt and this guy’s so powerful yeah advantage of it but uh hey that was a close that would have been a he didn’t ask me so technically I didn’t lie I didn’t expect him to call me out like that but I’m glad I picked him to win and uh that’s great Jimmy what do you want to promote my little buddy uh tonight tonight at 7 p.m. I will be at the Fat Black Pussycat in the city I have a bunch of dates in Saratoga Springs Annapolis Maryland bunch of gigs and my wife and I have a new podcast episode up on uh Nikki and Jim NYC the sword fight is the podcast and the and the guest is the great Zach Amo a really really um hilarious comic so go and watch it we hope you like it yeah Jimmy 7:30 I’ll I’ll be um at se Sarah BJJ teaching the 40 and over class why oh good that’s not that’s not a worthy of my time I think I respect that you do it I like to make good people dangerous it’s a worthy worthy profession yeah and I’m looking forward to uh you coming to the city I would love that I really would thank you maybe we could do it next week I would like let’s just try and do it next week if you can let’s do it next week uh Tuesdays and Thursdays are the best for me okay so what I’ll do is I’ll try to switch next week and do uh Jamie on a different day um Tuesday or Thursday you let me oh wait a minute no I’m going to I’m going to I’m going to Texas next week the week after let’s do it the week after we’ll do it yeah yeah on a Tuesday or a Thursday will be perfect Jimmy have fun on Rogan have a safe trip thank you so much Jimmy we could be here her Ro me and you all right J I just want to leave you with that note thank you very much I’m sorry you you didn’t need that I did not know have a safe TR I’ll talk to you Monday buddy goodbye everybody goodbye