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On this episode of Good Guy / Bad Guy…Have we seen the last of the “double champs” in the UFC? That could be the case with Islam Makhachev, Ilia Topuria and Zhang Weili all choosing to vacate their belts to fight for another. So, why are they willing to give up their titles to chase another? The double champ himself gives his take on the trend! Plus, Jack Della Maddalena may have the cheat code to beat Makhachev and his name is Craig Jones. Also, find out what the guys expect this weekend when Nassourdine Imavov takes on Ciao Borralho in a middleweight title contenders bout.

0:00 Intro
1:50 Double champ era over?
6:23 Why give up a title?
8:32 Did the double champ era make the sport better?
11:03 JDM brings in Craig Jones to camp
17:58 Craig Jones puts Chael to sleep
24:12 Imavov vs. Borralho this weekend

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So, I got a big problem here. My legs are on one side. My chest is here. My eyes are blocked by his body. He's got

my arm and my throat. I mean, I'm in a real puzzle that I don't know where I'm at. Where was the Where was the Where was the choke on the on the on the artery?

Like, where was on the artery? And part It was the most peaceful thing.

What's happening, guys? Welcome to another episode of Good Guy Bad Guy. I'm Jail. He's Daniel partner. Where should

we begin? Oh man, I think the only place we can begin, Chale, is Costco. Uh, so we It's

been determined that we both love it. I mean, I love the pinwheel sandwich. And I hear yesterday experience, bro. I wish

I could have saw your face when you bit into that chicken bake. It was so good. It smelled so good. Then they had some

offering. You got a hot dog and a drink and it was for like a buck and a quarter. I could not believe it. Inflation's hit everyone in the world

except the line at Costco. I must tell you, I was rather impressed with that business. Yeah, it's a great business.

Inflation's hit Costco and the Masters. Yo, the Masters, they'll still selling all their con concessions for like $2.25

like they're in the 70s. So, it's like and Costco like 125 for a Coke and a hot

dog. Costco, good job, buddies. Good job. You You really have gimmicked the game. All

right, chill. So, off the Costco subject, big news, right? We both love

Costco, but even bigger news, the UFC has announced that Way Li Jang is going

to fight Valentina for the flyweight championship in the co-main event of

Macatcha versus Jack Dela Matalena. Now, I get that these fights on paper

represent two of the best fighters in the world and it's guys trying to make history and Islam and Jack trying to

stop the the the unstoppable Islam trying to become a champion in the second division. But to me, it

represents something a little bit different, Jill. To me, it feels like

when Ilia gave up his belt, you started to kind of sense that the champ era

might be coming to an end. like the the simultaneous champ, the Conor McGregor, DC, Henry and freaking Amanda Nunez. It

seemed like that era it might be coming to an end. This news solidifies that for

me. Islam having to give up the belt because Ilia was going to fight. I understood a little bit more. But now

seeing way Lee do it, especially when there's no clear Ilia, right? being

Islam giving it up Chelp. There was a clear Ilia to Porya to step in. Now McKenzie Durn is fighting Vina Janjova.

No disrespect to them, but there's that there's no Ilia. But making her give it up tells me that era is over. Chelp, do

you feel the same way? Yes, I do. And I must tell you, as a fan, I like it.

Daniel, here's the thing. I don't overly care. Any sport you want to talk about, I don't overly care what the rules are

as long as they're consistent. as long as everybody's playing by the same. And

I just got to tell you, we've had some rare opportunities where somebody got to go to champ status. But there was a bad news. The bad news never got promoted

and never got advertised, which is it slows one division down. It can slow one

division down for for four to six months. And when you've got those young athletes, men and women, any weight

class you're talking about, that have a goal and they have a dream and all of a sudden it's frozen. They're frozen out

because their champion has gone somewhere else. I love the idea of collecting hardware. I will tell you as an athlete, I really respect it. And

these two and three-time champions, I really do respect it. But you got to burn your ships. I maintain for you to

this day the reason Vulcganowski did not beat Islam is because he didn't give his belt up. And win or lose, when he's

faced with his darkest moment, win or lose, he wakes up the next day champion of the world. His next fight is for the

world championship because he's bringing it. If you're sincere, Daniel, if you really believe that you're the best,

there is one way to prove it. Walk away from the belt. It's the ultimate sign of sportsmanship, but also of sincerity in

your own mission. Yeah. And and confidence, right? The the the idea that

yo, I know cuz Joe, you're right, man. to to to know ah well win or lose I

people say I have nothing to lose in a lot of instances but to literally have

nothing to lose in the sense that you're still the champion does make it a little bit of a softer landing and you're right

maybe that was part of it I don't know if I agree on vote because I know that he's so good and he's he almost won the

first time but I could see uh your point my thing Daniel let me ask you from a personal

level you were the light heavyweight champion they bump you up to heavyweight Now all of a sudden you got a chance at gold gold. But what if what if that was

contingent on you had to drop the lightweight championship? Would have you done it? I don't know. That's the other thing,

right? That's a very good question because everything you said applied to me where

was like Stipe is the best heavyweight of all time. They're calling him. If this guy somehow beats me, I'm still the

light heavyweight champion. I just go back down and I defend the belt somewhere else. and I know that at some point I'm going to have a massive fight

against Jon Jones because eventually he will come back and I'll make a boatload of money. So, it made it easier to to

accept the idea that I was going to go up and fight this dangerous fight. Now, once I won, there was no way I was going

back down to 205, but to go there and know that if push come to shove, I lost.

I would still have the Jones fight. I would still have another title defense at light heavyweight. There was just so

many soft landing, right? We are more willing to do things when we know the fall isn't going to be so severe. If I

tell you Chelp, you and I have two options to fall. One, you could fall on a mattress and while you're falling from

high, it's still going to hurt. But then your other option is to fall and break all your bones. You're going to be like, well, I'd like to fall on the mattress

with the idea that just maybe I don't kill myself. That's what it was like

when they asked me. But everyone now is just willing to give

up the belt. Why? Why do you think it's come so easy to these athletes to say,

"Okay, if that's what I have to do, take that belt. I'm going to go chase another one." Daniel, I feel like I have the

answer. Looks nothing retires an athlete from wrestling, from boxing, or from MMA

more than making weight. Nothing. Guys will grab a microphone. They'll retire and my time's behind us or the contract

upper. As Dana, I want to thank you for the great memories. But what they're really saying is I don't want to live the lifestyle required to beat that damn

scale. I think that your coach John Smith would have stuck around another cycle if somebody had told him it's okay

to go to 149 and a half. I mean just for example, nobody ever talks about it. Nobody's ever retired and said, "I don't

want to weigh in again." But it's what they mean. It's exactly why they step away. It's not cuz they're done or they

missed the lifestyle or their their their body's even gotten too old. that non-stop 24-hour a day lifestyle that's

required to be in a calorie deficit while training hard. So I I'm going a roundabout way, but I I hope you

understand I'm answering your question. Ilia did not want to make 145 lbs anymore. That was the point of him

moving up to 155. Now Islam has not given us that much info. Islam's actually said, "I'm interested in going

back to 55." I just suspect as a viewer once he smells the air at 170 pounds,

once fight week rolls around and his mouth isn't completely dry and his attitude isn't grumpy because he's in a

calorie deficit, I don't think he's going to return to 155. So, I don't know that these guys are so willing to do it.

But there is something to be said and people change the verbiage. People want to be two time and three time and four

time UFC champions so much that they lie about it and they've even got announcers lying about it. If you defend a title,

you are not a two-time champion. You must win a different belt or lose the belt and return to get it again. When

you defend a Matt Hughes was the first one to claim, I'm a five-time champion. No, you're not. You won it and you

defended it and it's a great accomplishment, but it's not the same thing. Yeah, it's not the same thing.

You uh Yeah. Yeah. Chill. So, let me ask you this.

I know you didn't like love the two division champion because of the strain it put on the divisions, but did that

help to propel the sport forward? The visuals of the Conor McGregor's and myself and Henry and Amanda when

something that seemed so impossible became a real thing and started to happen so frequently because Ch becoming

a UFC champion in any regard to me is impossible. Those people that have won

those belts are so special. Our people even fought for those belts are so special. And you and I both know how

hard it is to accomplish it to do it in two divisions. Did that help to move this sport forward at all? Oh, I I think

that it did. I think the postwars were awesome. By the way, I think it's one of the reasons that I is the number one

pound-for-pound fighter in the world. If we had done things exactly like we done them, but we signed paperwork in a

different order, Ilia would have a 45lb title, a 55lb title, and a BMF title. We

have never had somebody with with with three championships, and I do think that that sticks out. I do think the Rinkkins

committee had to take that into consideration. Yes, the double champions has been good for the sport. A champion

versus a champion is a wonderful thing. It reminds me of Warrior versus Hogan. But there is an underbelly to that,

which is the locker room, which is the morale, which is a lot of people that sigh and say, "I just want my opportunity for one belt. Here, this

person's the leader of my division, and they're going for two." It creates a bit of an envy, but there is a reason that

envy is one of the deadly sins. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of it's

kind of weird because everybody has the same goal, but at times some people just

kind of fish or chase down that second one. And when they do, uh, it's great,

but we also got to remember so many fail ch it wasn't like this was a 100% thing,

right? We watched, uh, TJ Dillashaw try to do it. Izzy had a tried to do it. We

saw many people try to do that. Uh, but

um, not everybody was able to to to get it done. But you know what's the other side of the two division thing, Chill?

There's always that willing champion that is standing there waiting, right? Stipe, heaviest guy in the world. There

was nowhere else for him to go and challenge. So, he was just there waiting for me. Jack Delmatilena is just sitting

there waiting for Islamace to come up and try to become a two division

champion in the UFC. Jack Delatena though has done things recently to

really help improve his overall game. One of those things being bringing in Craig Jones. Chill. This time though,

he's bringing in Chad uh Craig Jones, but not for two weeks. He's bringing him

in for three months. How much is going to benefit him to have a guy like Craig Jones in the camp, but in the camp full

time? Confidence. It will add a level of confidence. I I experienced this for the first time. I get a call from you. You

say, "Hey, we got to get down to the ATM. We both got to chip in some money, but there's this guy. His name's Betta.

He's 23 years old and people don't know him, but just trust me, this guy's going to he's really going to show us

something to work at. And we go down there and we rotate on him and he wears us both out. But that was a big eye

opening for me. I didn't know that level existed. I didn't know some of these positions that you were in danger. And I

it changed me. That one workout with you and Betta made me come home and and re-evaluate. And I could only imagine. I

mean, Craig, for what that is, what that is of being on the ground and trying to submit a guy or trying to slip out

behind him, he is the best. He is the best on the planet to do it. So, if Delan can get down there and he can just

experience that, it will at least in theory remove a little bit of fear. If you can ever find a practice environment

that's more difficult than the event is going to be. That's the ultimate situation. And as athletes, we're

willing to pay a lot of money and sacrifice a lot to create that. So that the event is actually kind of a step

down, if you will. And as far as being on the ground, there's nobody more dangerous that I know of than Craig

Jones. Yeah. So Craig Jones will help him prepare for the grappling, for the

wrestling. But does that because he's very unorthodox, Jail, he's very unorthodox.

He's got a lot of tricks. He he's he's insane on the ground. But does that prepare you for the type of wrestling

that Mkhachev brings to the ring to the octagon? That's the issue, right? Because while Craig Jones is very

diverse in his attacks, Islam is pretty straightforward. It's a lot of pressure. It's toughness. It it it's physical. Can

that help him prepare for what Islam brings to the octagon? Well, again, I got to just go with

mentally. Mentally, I think it could get add of confidence, but the physicality side of it, I mean, this has been the

question that we've been debating in the Octagon as the as the proving ground since 1993. Like, what submissions work

when strikes are involved? What submissions do you need to throw out of the way when strikes are involved? It's

one of those things. And Islam is very different. I He's very bluecollar. He's going to get you down kind of like

wrestler kind of workman style. I don't know that I believe in any system where Islam is likely to be caught in a

submission. But if Craig is spending his time with Jack and showing him how to be slippery down there, how to slide out,

how to arm drag, take the back, come up with reversals, that I do believe can work. I can go back to a fight in my

head. It was BJ Penn versus Matt Hughes. And Matt sat up big and he comes down with this big elbow like he did in every

other fight. And BJ comes out the back, but he does it with the opposite arm. We're all watching going, "Man, that's

junk." Before you know it, BJ had his back and he choked him out. So, I only suggest for you in the world of jiu-jitsu, there is very helpful

techniques and they're not all submission based. I like the escapes and I like the reversals more than I like

the idea that Jack is going to finish Islam. I think Jack Delatena

where it could potentially help him is causing actions because when you're

grappling with Islam, he's so heavy on top, right? He has so much pressure that

people don't move. And we saw that against uh Moano last fight. We saw it

against Vog when he was able to get him on. No, no, sorry. Actually, Vog was able to move under him. So, that's why it became very hard for him. But we saw

it against Moy Cono. We saw it against Charles Olivera. We saw it against uh

Dustin. When they get down and they can't move, they suffer or they struggle. What I think Craig Jones will

help him with those unique abilities is causing motions where they're not just

flat on the ground. Because for Jack Delomat to land to be laying flat on his back, he is for him to be losing that

fight. And when you're losing and Islam's on top of you, it gets worse and worse and worse. Then you end up in an

arm triangle or you end up in a dar choke. You end up in submissions. I mean, he's finished the last I don't

know, the only person that hasn't been finished in the last seven fights is Vulk in fight number one. So, he's not only winning fights, he's finishing

fights. And for the most part, he's able to impose himself on his opponents. And

because of that, they really struggle. Ch like they can't move. But Vog moved,

right? Vult did move. and vote caused issues to the point that in round five,

Alexander Vulcanowski was on top of Islam and he was the one controlling

from the top position at the end of the fight, but he had Craig Jones in his camp. Can you when you watch Jack,

does his game look anything like Vulk's game? Because

now you got a bigger guy, right? Vog is smaller. Now you got a bigger guy that's training the same things and they're

going to try to implement it or do you think Vog's base is just so different that that's what ultimately led to him

having that type of success? When I look at all those finishes by Islam and even if I bring in uh the first fight with

Vulcanowski which went to a decision I still come to the same outcome which is this is energy based. These techniques

and these arm triangles these rear naked chokes these are not some fancy things that that Mr. Nurmagamed rest his soul

passed down. These are basics. It's the basics that win championships. But when you get a guy like Islam that's got that

gas tank and he's got that energy to be throwing it at you nonstop. There is a point where a fighter will say, "How bad

do I want to get out of this? If I get out of this one, he's just going to put me in another one. If I get out of this round, the next round I'm going to be

more fatigued." It's a negative. It's the battle we have with oursel, but it's still very realistic. And when I see

Islam catching guys and submitting them, I don't view Islam as a Betta or as a

Craig Jones. But I do view him with the same light that Kabib had, that George St. Pierre had, that Daniel Cormier had,

that Randy Couture had, which is I can bring a pace to you that I'm going to weaponize. And that partner is where I

feel that Jack can hold up. I think Jack offers that same pace. I think it's the

biggest thing everybody's missing about this match. Forget the punches and the kicks. Can you be around 25 minutes in?

Can I be around 25 minutes in? And both of the a these athletes, the answer is yes. And that's what makes for great

contests. Yeah, that makes for great fights. And also, I just want to see how Islam

handles the bigger guy, right? We know he can do it at 155, but let's see how he handles a guy as big as Jack Dela

Matalena. This fight's interesting, man. I I can't wait. This whole Craig Jones thing adds a whole layer uh to the

fight. Uh, speaking of Craig Jones, um, man, yo, what happened? I I buried the

lead. Like, I buried the lead. What happened, Ch? I'm watching you grapple. I mean, you

look phenomenal. You're in great shape. You take his ass down right the way we're supposed to be. We're in side

control. You're safe. What happened? I apprec I appreciate you saying that

because it's called side control. I've been at this for 20 plus years as a professional. You're not in trouble when

you're in side control. And I'm even thinking to myself like there's these forums online and the kids all get together and it's going through my mind.

They're going to be so impressed that I got to side control on Craig Jones. Now, Craig Jones ended up he wanted a few

minutes. He wanted this match to go and he apparently did not respect his own hold. It was called a buggy choke. He

thought that I was okay. Now, I got to tell you, all I can hear is my coach Fabiano saying in my ear, and this is

way back to when I was a little kid, if you're ever getting a choke, relax. You got to relax. be calm. So, I got a big

problem here. My legs are on one side. My chest is here. My eyes are blocked by his body. He's got my arm and my throat.

I mean, I'm in a real puzzle that I don't know where I'm at. Where was the where was the where was the choke on the on the on the artery? Like, where was

on the artery? And partner, it was the most peaceful thing. Like, a guillotine can kind of hurt or rear naked there's a

little bit of a panic. This was the most peaceful. And I never went out. I I know that it looks like I did, but I'm

telling you, I I was there. When we go out, we don't know we went out. We feel like we didn't go out jail.

You moved the way you moved. It was a split second, but when he released whatever hold that was, I saw you kind

of come back. Ch, I think you went out, my brother. I just got to tell you the truth. Well, and Daniel, I can accept

that. I'm just saying like I felt like I was there, but I I could hear Big John. I could hear Big John say, "Craig, he's

out. Let go." Like I could hear all of these things. It's just my my body couldn't move. And then when you do come

back around, then you've got like this time lapse about, oh my god, how long have I been out? How what what has

happened? And the whole thing's very weird. I come home to my wife. My wife gives me a hug at the door. Both our

kids are there. So she whispers into my ear, you didn't make that first one look very real. And it's like, oh my. So now

she's just opened the door. She's just opened the door for me to slide into. It

was a performance. I was fine. elbow and a wink and I don't know how to take it.

But as a competitor, it's like I can't do that. He got I mean the rules are the rules. He got me fair and square. And it

turns out he got me twice. I would have told her that he cheated. I would have been like he cheated. I would have found

a way to say that he cheated. Uh he cheated me in there because dude, it's

like you get in there in a wrestling match, right? We could take these guys show and

their idea of wrestling is defend single leg, defend double leg, defend high crotch, those things. When I start

wrestling these guys inside the octagon and I'm kicking their feet and I'm picking them up and putting them down

and move. That's not part of the rules. Jail, nobody else does that. We don't know. I don't know what Craig Jones did.

I'm watching this. I'm like, well, how did he get him? I'm like, jail, move. because I could sense I could sense

so crazy. At first I was like, "Okay, he's good. He's in side control, but I could sense like something's happening.

I don't know what's happening, but his legs start to go up above your shoulders. He's holding you." I was

like, "Wait, something's happening?" And I'm not sure Chill recognizes how bad

this is because I was like, "He's moving up on his body." It was like watching a cobra or an anaconda start to kind of go

around their their prey. And the poor prey, you know, the capiara, the capiara

in Brazil gets eaten by the anaconda. It starts to kind of go around him slow and then all of a sudden he go, "Oh my god,

chill." That was you, my brother. You were the capiara. You were the You were the capiara that was just unaware of the

fact that Anaconda was getting you. Daniel Bo sends me a message right after

that match and he goes, "Wow, coach, what an impressive way to get out of that choke." And it it kind of felt like

that. Like Craig, I don't know where we're at out here. Like, if you want some some minutes out of me, I'm your guy. I'm here to grind. I'm even aware

in the back of my head there's probably going to be a jo o done at some point. But you put me in something called a

buggy choke. Think about a buggy. Where am I going to learn a buggy choke? You know, I would I would I would There's

ways out of that from our world. There's there's ways that we have to to defend that. He's very tricky, man. And if I

can just tell you this about the event, but they had a special energy in that building. It it really was like, you

know, Craig's kind of formed this this cult of these Craig Jones. They knew when to cheer. They knew when to boo.

They knew what to support. It really was an awesome event. I I at least owe it that. Yeah, that was awesome, man. That

was awesome. You're you're the ultimate showman. And you go out there and you put you put on a show. I mean, you

literally can make me believe you're going to win at anything. I thought I saw Tino Ortiz say you guys are going to

wrestle at Real American Freestyle and I immediately started thinking back, Chill going to beat this dude because jail,

I've seen you pin him before. If if I've seen you pin him before, I hope you pin him next time. Daniel, I'm not positive

that Tito understood what real American freestyle is. And I mean that respectfully. I don't know that he's ever had a freestyle match. If he had

one as a cadet, a junior, a university, I don't know about it. And I'm thinking, Tito, this might be better if in

friendship, we just go in the back. You get 30 seconds on top, I get 30 seconds on top. Let me let me just show you.

Otherwise, you're gonna get what it is that you're asking for. Yeah. Otherwise, you're going to get just molly wpped. It's It can It can be

so bad. Chill. Put it on him. I don't mind. I like Tito, but put it on him, Chill. In this world, we got to take the

wins where we get when we get to our age. You You Hey, I like I told someone one time, I told this to an Australian

kid fighting in the UFC. He was talking about being a wrestler. I go, "Well, if I ever saw you on the bracket at the

World Championships, I thought I had a buy. I mean, you wrestle for Australia. I figured I had a buy. If I had you in

the first round of a World Championships, you're always praying for the Australian guy." All right, chill. But let's get back on topic. Two guys

fighting this weekend in Paris. The city of lights, Kawhalio

and Nasardin Immab. It's the city of love, brother. But there will be no love

in that octagon come Saturday. Here's the deal, though. These guys are in a very unique situation. We've talked

about this so many times about middleweight. We talked about what you have to do to solidify yourself as a

number one contender. Here's the problem. I don't know that they can do anything to completely solidify

themselves as a number one contender. Why? Because they're first. Every time you're first, you get the opportunity to

make an impression, but then the guy that goes second gets to come behind you and do it a little better. How in the

world can these two keep the winner of Fluffy versus uh Ditter from jumping

them when they fight in Vancouver next month? I was in Chicago. I was checking in on Bo while he's in the middle of a

weight cut and Kyle is is in there doing a workout and he interrupts his workout and he yells to me, "Chale, jail." And I

look up and he says, "Kyle Brahalio." And I was like, "Kyle Brow, I got it. No

problem." Like, moving forward. I'm working on this name, but I don't miss his name on purpose. It's not out of

disrespect, Daniel. I got to share with you. I think this might be the boogeyman at 185. I mean, for years, we were told

it was Chamaya. What What did he say, Jill? Why would you call him Kyle Kyle Barrow?

All he said was his name, but he annunciated it correctly. Kyle Bahalo because I always say there is

Bio Brow or something like this. Ba child. You called him B. But I was trying to let him know like I

don't get it wrong at a disrespect. I'm well aware of your skill set. It's just a little bit of a tricky name. But

people are saying at 185, right? Everything we've been told that's Chamaya for the last four or five years, that's the real champion. That's the one

you want to avoid. That's the one you hope when Dana calls you, he's not going to offer you. A lot of the middleweights

are now saying that about Kaio. And I was really, very impressed that he built this reputation. You know, this guy used

to be a chemistry and math teacher. A lot of people don't know that, but that's what he used to do right out on the streets of his neighborhood. He was

known to be so good at chemistry and mathematics, kids would come over, knock on his door, and get private tutoring. I

just share with you, he's an interesting guy. He's also a leader of one of the most interesting facets in the history

of MMA, these fighting nerds. He's got a lot on him. I believe that Imminov versus Kyle is for the true number one

contendership. But to your point, Fluffy Hernandez and RDR is looking to come in and steal that thunder. So, I think that

they need to go out not only have the uh best performance, but they need to grab that microphone and they need to solidify in everybody's minds, I am

next, whichever one of these killers it is. But they need to make it very clear to not ask for the opportunity, but

rather to demand that they're next for Chamay and take it. They have to take it. They have to get out there and take

it. But let me tell you something about Nasardini Mav. How this dude has worked in silence. And it's it's so it's so

true to who he is because he's quiet. He's like a silent assassin. Great striking. Now he can wrestle. Wee

Buckley, Chris Curtis draw, loses to Shawn Strickland after that

loss. He beats Roman De Jared Canadier,

Brennan Allen, then Israel Adisagna all back to back since losing to Sean

Strickland. This guy has put together his starting to build a resume that

honestly should be good enough to be fighting for the belt right now when the champion

doesn't have an opponent. But like you said, we are in a different era of middleweights right now. We're in the

most deep era in the UFC history in terms of the middleweight division. How do they get it done? How do they have to

make themselves so valuable that they cannot be denied?

I don't believe it can happen this weekend, Joe. I think I just think that

I just think that the potential for something so explosive in Vancouver is so great that in a month, right, it'll

be hard to go, well, remember what happened in Paris, everybody else is going to kind of move on to the next thing. It's the sadness in MMA today

opposed to what we had back when we were going to remember in the beginning it was like one a month. That person lived

in everybody's mind for a month until the next one. It's just a week now. I love what you're saying, Daniel. And

just to remind you to to strengthen your argument about Fluffy Hernandez and RDR, but the all-time record, the all-time

UFC record for wins in a row before you got a shot at the title is owned by Morab, and Morab had to beat 10 men. But

in all fairness to that record, he never would have had it if he was willing to fight Aljo. Dana was on board at fight

number six. So, it's one of these situations where if Fluffy Hernandez isn't next, if his fight with RDR isn't

next, then he's going to be 10 in a row and he's going to have to push this all-time record, which I think is fairly

unlikely. However, and I do get your point, like even a court of law will allow the defendant to go last. There is

something powerful about being the final image, but Kyle Bahalo weighed in.

History says the backup fighter gets to go next. Now, in this case, he already had assigned contract. So, he honored

the weigh-in. He flew out to Chicago. He went through the training camp. He got licensed. He beat the scale and is going

to catch another plane, do another weigh in after another training camp to get in there with Imanov. I mean, Dana White

does recognize those things not for nothing. The human element is very much there, but it's your fight to lose and

you can screw that up pretty quick. You want to go get into side control. you want to start playing a game where where

where you're eating up clock and you're you're looking to gain favor with the judges as opposed to go out and finish a

contest and show your dominance. Dana White's going to pay attention to that, too. But I think the winner of this

fight, even if it's short-lived, will be in a very good uh position to get Jamay's attention.

Yeah, it it's very important for both. I mean, I'm not trying to poo poo on this

weekend's parade because it's just a tremendous event, a tremendous fight. And every time they go to Paris, chill.

I I you know, I'm my name is Cormier, so I got a little French in me. I got I might have a little French in me, too,

you know. So, I'm fancy. I like quissants. I don't even call it croissants like you Americans. I call it

quissasants. So, I got a little French in me. So, I'm excited about what

happens this weekend. And uh you know, we'll see what happens. Are you going live? Are you going to be on the call? No, no, no. I'm not going

to Paris. I've never been to France. Have you? I used to go to the Henry Dlon challenge. Nancy Schultz would take me

every year. So, yeah. I used to I used to go to Nice, France every year about this time. Hey, you know Nancy Schultz was living

in the Bay Area when I came to AKA. She was like D I I had no idea Dave Schultz

lived in San Jose. I did not know that either. Nancy Schultz is currently Yep. She came

She's currently my neighbor. Nancy Schultz is 20 minutes that way right now. So she lives up there now.

Yes. Nice. Nice. The queen of wrestling. The queen of wrestling, my man. Chill. Enjoy your weekend, my brother. Another

great show. You are the man, boy. Hey, what are you doing this weekend? Can you believe that Craig Jones would

tap me out of that? There is no honor in that. And by the way, I didn't even tap out. I'm not sure that I wasn't fine. That's a way of calling possum. I was

relaxing like I was told to do. The referee stepped in. I'm not blaming anybody. It's open to interpretation.

But to make believe that that's a loss, not here, not on the streets, which is my kingdom. Goodbye, Daniel.